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Post by im3w1l »

netsharc wrote: post #100
amluto wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try to steer people to the media outlets that are still mostly balanced? NPR comes to mind. Or encourage people to read a leftish and a rightish source? And encourage people to think for themselves? It would also be nice, albeit maybe very hard, to encourage even the less balanced media to try to speak to everyone and to write critically and honestly. For example, I personally lean left, but I find the New York Times…

I've got someone, who when I sent her links to The Guardian or other MSM sites, said "They're paid off by Rockerfellers and Rotschilds to report made up stories". Snopes? She sent me a link to a blog that mentioned some Snopes scandal, as if saying Snoopes can't be trusted 100% (and yeah sadly there was a scandal involving the founders of Snopes). Of course she has her cheap-o fake-news Wordpress sites as her "source…

It's kind of interesting. "Billionaire wants to kill black people" sounds like a leftwing conspiracy. I wonder why rightwingers are the ones believing that one. Just a general tendency to believe in conspiracy theories?

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Post by nevi-me »

jelliclesfarm wrote: post #52

Not long ago, there was a #guillotine hashtag on Twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/guillotine2020?lang=en Wasn’t ‘halted’. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/guillotine https://mobile.twitter.com/notallbhas/status/124791247934001... : Bernie sanders’ plan c = guillotine

Whataboutism is a slippery slope. We can't justify action being taken by looking at the times it wasn't taken.

What about the idea that the tweet you've linked to was not after a sudden mob of violence was mobilised?

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Post by nightski »

blakesterz wrote: post #58
ansible wrote: post #43

I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics. Taking a step back... We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced. How can we have a meaningful discussion as a na…

> We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. You're partially right. We have at least two sides. One side is CLEARLY delusional. Fueled by conspiracy theories and lies. We also have other sides, but the two sides that get the most attention are the only sides that matter. We have one side that is most definitely delusional, other…

I'm sorry but just because a small vocal and extreme part of the conservative party has chosen to buy into conspiracy theories does not mean the entire side has. I know many conservatives who have not gone down this path and hate what DJT has done to the party.

Calling a huge portion of the country delusional with no basis or fact is precisely what is driving this division. Both sides have a lot more in common than you might imagine. Far more than what they disagree on.

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Post by [deleted] »

ansible wrote: post #69
amluto wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try to steer people to the media outlets that are still mostly balanced? NPR comes to mind. Or encourage people to read a leftish and a rightish source? And encourage people to think for themselves? It would also be nice, albeit maybe very hard, to encourage even the less balanced media to try to speak to everyone and to write critically and honestly. For example, I personally lean left, but I find the New York Times…

While you may believe that NPR is mostly balanced, I assure you that one side does not. They view it with derision, and believe it is the epitome of bias. And they will view just about any media source not aligning with their view similarly.

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Post by dragonwriter »

ansible wrote: post #43

I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics. Taking a step back... We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced. How can we have a meaningful discussion as a na…

> We've got these two sides.

No, we don't have two sides.

We've got, to reduce the complexity quite a bit but identify some factions with very distinct (though overlapping in various combinations) current interests: progressive Democrats and corporate neoliberal Democrats and moderate Republicans and conservative Republicans unequivocally appalled at the MAGA insurrection and those overtly supportive of the MAGA insurrection and mostly-conservative Republicans overtly opposed to the MAGA insurrection but eager to push it off the radar.

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Post by xnx »

jelliclesfarm wrote: post #52

Not long ago, there was a #guillotine hashtag on Twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/guillotine2020?lang=en Wasn’t ‘halted’. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/guillotine https://mobile.twitter.com/notallbhas/status/124791247934001... : Bernie sanders’ plan c = guillotine

That's an interesting comparison. A generic death threat seems very different than one directed at a specific individual.

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Post by nightski »

skosuri wrote: post #60
ansible wrote: post #43

I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics. Taking a step back... We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced. How can we have a meaningful discussion as a na…

For the last twenty years I thought things would eventually just come back to center. I’m not sure anymore. It’s possible it’s as follows: One side will win. History will be written by those winners. Pick your side and fight for it?

This is the fight we are being led into but there is another way. Compromise and working together. Truth be told it would be the best for both sides, and both sides are equally as guilty in not achieving it.

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Post by lazugod »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #85
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #76

Like probably most people in the discussion here, I think I’m smarter than the average person, and can discern the truth from multiple conflicting claims. But a little introspection shows me that no, this isn’t really true. I’m not hunting down original sources for everything I think I know, I’m mostly relying on gatekeepers (experts) to tell me what is true. Unfortunately, in social media, everybody gets to be an ex…

You are right. No one person can know everything about everything. Heaven's know I defer to experts if I know I can trust their opinion. The issue is trust. And US has about only one institution left that people seem to trust. Military. It does not bode well for the fate of the republic.

I wouldn’t agree that Americans universally trust their military.

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Post by kortilla »

tester756 wrote: post #19

I considered trying to get visa to USA and work there, but honestly last year makes me really worried about living there is it safe to live there?

Yes, it’s super safe. The news is playing a game of reality TV trying to control narrative in a big political struggle.

This has literally no impact on the day-to-day lives of people around the country. Even when the BLM protests were in full force, you had to go to specific downtown areas of large cities to see anything.

The only thing that happened to real people this year is covid, and that does suck. The vaccine should help though.

Do not throw away your future plans based on this drama.

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Post by shadowgovt »

feralimal wrote: post #92
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #76

Like probably most people in the discussion here, I think I’m smarter than the average person, and can discern the truth from multiple conflicting claims. But a little introspection shows me that no, this isn’t really true. I’m not hunting down original sources for everything I think I know, I’m mostly relying on gatekeepers (experts) to tell me what is true. Unfortunately, in social media, everybody gets to be an ex…

> I’m not hunting down original sources for everything I think I know, I’m mostly relying on gatekeepers (experts) to tell me what is true. Very honest! > As much as it goes against my grain, I have to admit that society works better when the gatekeepers decide what the truth is, even though we know they don’t always get it right. No! They don't always get it right?! They are literally there to ensure you get it wron…

What is the benefit the governance structure derives from general misinformation on most topics? Governance is harder when people don't know things.
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