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Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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The thing Wag screwed up was its total lack of empathy in trying to buy silence. > a couple thousand maximum Maximum? Many pups cost more than this and you'd be paying to replace at least. You might also be paying for any amount of vet bills if the animal isn't killed on the spot. If you hit a service or working dog, be ready to shell out tens of thousands for replacement due to the unique tasks performed (not all do…

The law is not on the pet owner's side here as far as vet bills. Pets are treated as property, so the max amount due is the cost of replacing the dog.

The law is not super relevant to whether or not dog owners trust your dog walking service. Wag should probably be trying to go well above what they're legally obligated to do in this situation.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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You should never be a dog owner. If you can't be there for them, you do not have them. I feel sorry for the dog, not you!

Yes. Also this

> Sara and I will welcoming a new puppy from the same breeder in February—Rory

Just go and get one from a shelter instead of encouraging animal breeding which is an unethical practice [0]

[0] https://www.peta.org/issues/animal-companion-issues/pet-trad...

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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There's no way any insurance company providing the kind of commercial insurance you need to drive for Uber would be okay with a driver using someone else's Uber account, immigrant or otherwise. The finger-pointing likely to result from an incident would make this driver as good as uninsured.

Commercial insurance covers a combination of driver and car. You can get insurance for someone to drive a car that they don't own as part of a contract (e.g. with Uber) that they did not directly sign or benefit from. All you have to do is be upfront about it, and willing to pay. Yes, it does cost more to cover employees as opposed to owner/operators of a business venture, but it it is not impossible (if it were taxi…

Its impossible to insure "employees" when said "employees" are not licensed to operate a motor vehicle.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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We had a similar (but thankfully, less serious) thing happen with Rover. We booked a dog sitter for 4 days with a woman named "Leslie". When we showed up to "Leslie's" place, the lady who we met did not match the person in the photo, and barely spoke any english. We were on our way to the airport, so I really didn't have a choice at that point but to leave our dog (I realize now I should have done more vetting, or me…

Why not put an IP camera on your pooch and front yard for the peace of mind and to verify they are actually doing their job?

They dropped the dog off at someone else's place, it wasn't a house sitting.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Family has a dog. Family's dog needed a walk. There is a dog walking service called Wag. Family hires unidentified walker through Wag. Dog dies. Wag doesn't care and doesn't want to be held accountable. Family announces incident on Facebook.

First world problems.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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If he care the dog so much, the question is why is he trusting it to some stranger ?

@Dang, I'm noticing a lot of old HN accounts created a long time with very low karma making these very trollish comments, I'm guessing these are credentials stolen from the latest data breach.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Missing from the discussion as far as I can see is mention of the walker’s behaviour. I don’t know what rules Wag have, but calling the owner as soon as possible and stating what has happened is a pretty basic thing to do. Deliver the bad news to those that need it as quickly and accurately as you can, with updates when appropriate. Not answering then lying is not ok, and whatever Wags’s rules are this shouldn’t have…

From what I know about Wag, it's sort of like Uber pool. You don't get your dog walked alone, a dog walker has the option to walk as many dogs as they can to maximise their profit. Add to this a matching algorithm that doesn't pair a consistent walker with your dog every day, and you get a situation where a new walker is pushed into taking more more responsibility than they probably should. This inherently puts dogs…

I agree with this, it's an obvious train wreck. Dog walkers have to be known and trusted. Our neighbors suspected something was wrong with their dog walker because their dog was suddenly really antsy when they got home and always acted up. They put in a hidden nanny cam and turned out the dog walker was coming over, hanging out on their couch texting and watching TV and never actually took the dog out. Poor thing.

Then in SF another dog walker got busted for driving around picking up all her dogs, but leaving them inside her dog walking van while she went shopping at the mall instead of walking the dogs.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Incident-with-Dog-Walk...

It's so hard to trust anyone to actually take care of your dog, why automatically dilute to a gig economy with no oversight where just get any rando with a record who can buy a fake Wag account on reddit for their burner phone.

This is why we bring our dog to a doggy daycare where we can watch him play on webcams all day. But even that's not 100% safe, the workers could be not watching, or whatever.

It's just like eldercare. If you want to be sure it's done properly you basically have to do it yourself.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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post #95

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The thing Wag screwed up was its total lack of empathy in trying to buy silence. > a couple thousand maximum Maximum? Many pups cost more than this and you'd be paying to replace at least. You might also be paying for any amount of vet bills if the animal isn't killed on the spot. If you hit a service or working dog, be ready to shell out tens of thousands for replacement due to the unique tasks performed (not all do…

"In any case, Wag and its walker are probably not at fault. I'd be after the driver." Have you considered the dog was at fault? I mean unless the leash is incredible short it would be pretty easy to jump into an oncoming car if pavement is small. Playing devil advocate here but since we've considered Wag, the walker and driver surely we can consider the animal at fault too unless the lease was 20cms and dog was pract…

> Have you considered the dog was at fault?

Mate... It's a dog, we are the care-takers. Even if a dog is messed up in the head and bites people, it's probably been influenced by its' environment - people.

If we want to have cool pets, we have got to take responsibility.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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> a persons' dog is more important than most other humans to most dog owners, yet the law treats dogs as nothing more than property Something I've always found particularly infuriating is how police dogs are considered officers and often carries a worse punishment than attacking an actual police officer. Not because I am upset that the dogs are being protected, but that the police basically can shoot other people's d…

Police dogs are not actual officers, as they can not meet the training and oath requirements. I'm not aware of any laws protecting the dogs specifically other than general animal cruelty laws. But because they are very expensive to train (I know of a bomb dog that cost $30k+) you are facing felony property damage charges if you injure or disable them. You should take a break.

I imagine $30k to be cheap for a bomb dog. Service dogs with the bare minimum of tasks (2 + a general training) for people with disabilities go for $15k+ trained.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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There is no such Federal law . Animal cruelty to a dog owned by a Federal agency would be a state statute.

Exactly. The only Federal Law re animals is the Animal Welfare act, which only has to do with research animals. All 50 states have animal cruelty laws.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1368

18 U.S. Code § 1368 - Harming animals used in law enforcement

(a) Whoever willfully and maliciously harms any police animal, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not more than 1 year. If the offense permanently disables or disfigures the animal, or causes serious bodily injury to or the death of the animal, the maximum term of imprisonment shall be 10 years.

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