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Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by diaktifkan »

gnicholas wrote: post #176
cgriswald wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing Wag screwed up was its total lack of empathy in trying to buy silence. > a couple thousand maximum Maximum? Many pups cost more than this and you'd be paying to replace at least. You might also be paying for any amount of vet bills if the animal isn't killed on the spot. If you hit a service or working dog, be ready to shell out tens of thousands for replacement due to the unique tasks performed (not all do…

> In any case, Wag and its walker are probably not at fault. I'd be after the driver. Not sure how you can jump to that conclusion. A driver can probably assume that a dog being walked by a person, even near the road, will be controlled appropriately by the walker. The only time a driver could not reasonably assume this is where the dog is too large to be controllable by the person (kid or small adult) who is walking…

I disagree the Walker would ready up this information. Because fault isn't always clear. And what if they were an immigrant and terrified of the police?

To the OP, sorry for your loss. That's a tragic thing to have happen and I hope this is a lesson for you as well not to trust someone without getting to know them first.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by true_religion »

ohazi wrote: post #135
labster wrote: post #120

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Why would anyone care if an undocumented immigrant drove your uber? As long as they're licensed and insured, they're just as qualified as any other driver.

There's no way any insurance company providing the kind of commercial insurance you need to drive for Uber would be okay with a driver using someone else's Uber account, immigrant or otherwise. The finger-pointing likely to result from an incident would make this driver as good as uninsured.

Commercial insurance covers a combination of driver and car. You can get insurance for someone to drive a car that they don't own as part of a contract (e.g. with Uber) that they did not directly sign or benefit from.

All you have to do is be upfront about it, and willing to pay.

Yes, it does cost more to cover employees as opposed to owner/operators of a business venture, but it it is not impossible (if it were taxis would not be able to exist).

What is probably true is the default insurance given out by Uber will not cover people not listed on the policy, and only the person contracted with Uber is listed on the Uber-backed policy.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by thecatspaw »

ravenstine wrote: post #16

I was going to reply with a reply about this being "statistically bound to happen", until I read this: > If we wanted to be compensated we had to agree not to tell anyone what happened, we could not leave any negative reviews, we could not make posts on social media, we could not hold Wag or the walker responsible, and only then would Wag reimburse us for Winnie’s cremation. When we responded that we would not sign t…

Is this legal?

They promised to pay for everything, and did not disclose additional terms at that time.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by thecatspaw »

spraak wrote: post #81
warent wrote: post #79

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I'm a vegan but your point is tangential to the discussion and doesn't really make sense here.

Found the vegan. Also, I'm vegan. Secondly, is every comment on HN perfectly on point and never tangentially related? No, many many popular threads are not directly related.

There is also a very stark difference between whipping a dog until it vomits blood for fun, and killing an animal immediatly for food.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by rhacker »

setr wrote: post #69
matz1 wrote: post #50

If he care the dog so much, the question is why is he trusting it to some stranger ?

Most interaction in life eventually boil down to trusting in strangers (that you pay). Your kids? Schools, daycares, after-school programs, schooltrips, babysitting; let them do anything on their own? All stranger interactions. At most you get transitive trust. But that doesn’t amount to much. No, the main reason we’re able to sustain this model is that we believe in two big functions: 1. Most people operate nuetrall…

It is a fair question, because we weigh our decisions with risk. I deem that eating a burrito from chipotle with a low risk, but there is a chance, however small, that I can die. But it's still such a small chance that I consider the risk worth the reward of the tasty Chipotle burrito.

My wife and I, for example, won't leave our cats with a company, or even someone the vet knows. We would rather buy an automated cat food dispenser and have a live video feed to make sure it works. We've done that for 2 very short trips away. We're not parents but for us, things like Day care, school (at all - we would have homeschooled), babysitters would have all been out. The risk would be too high for us.

However all that said Wag didn't do the right thing here.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by e40 »

gnicholas wrote: post #176
cgriswald wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing Wag screwed up was its total lack of empathy in trying to buy silence. > a couple thousand maximum Maximum? Many pups cost more than this and you'd be paying to replace at least. You might also be paying for any amount of vet bills if the animal isn't killed on the spot. If you hit a service or working dog, be ready to shell out tens of thousands for replacement due to the unique tasks performed (not all do…

> In any case, Wag and its walker are probably not at fault. I'd be after the driver. Not sure how you can jump to that conclusion. A driver can probably assume that a dog being walked by a person, even near the road, will be controlled appropriately by the walker. The only time a driver could not reasonably assume this is where the dog is too large to be controllable by the person (kid or small adult) who is walking…

It's almost like people with an agenda have come here to comment. The GP blames the driver and another blames the dog. Without knowing any details. This is very fishy.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by kdf83 »

mrob wrote: post #107
kdf83 wrote: post #95

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"In any case, Wag and its walker are probably not at fault. I'd be after the driver." Have you considered the dog was at fault? I mean unless the leash is incredible short it would be pretty easy to jump into an oncoming car if pavement is small. Playing devil advocate here but since we've considered Wag, the walker and driver surely we can consider the animal at fault too unless the lease was 20cms and dog was pract…

A dog is an animal. It has no moral responsibility. If a dog does something wrong the fault lies with the person in charge who failed to control it. A professional dog walker should be aware of traffic and anticipate how the dog might react.

"Might" react. If it reacts in the total opposite way then what? Constrain lead to 20cm, full muzzle, sedate the dog incase it's brute power is too much in a unexpected moment of madness.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by astura »

thatoneuser wrote: post #148
crowbahr wrote: post #115

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Perhaps have the walkers be bonded as well? Even if it's 1k that's a pretty serious amount of money to lose, but low enough a barrier of entry that you still have people making a go at it. Obviously it gets returned to you when you close your Wag Walker account.

I don't think you understand how little these gig apps pay. 1k deposit would exclude a very large percentage of the workers. And frankly - who in the hell in their right mind would PAY a company a grand so start working for them? That's sketchy af.

You're right, but maybe that's the point? You're excluding people who are just desperate for money but keeping the people who want to build (or already own) a pet care business.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by Dylan16807 »

kdf83 wrote: post #198
mrob wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A dog is an animal. It has no moral responsibility. If a dog does something wrong the fault lies with the person in charge who failed to control it. A professional dog walker should be aware of traffic and anticipate how the dog might react.

"Might" react. If it reacts in the total opposite way then what? Constrain lead to 20cm, full muzzle, sedate the dog incase it's brute power is too much in a unexpected moment of madness.

That's a weird way of spelling "Use a reasonable leash length for your distance from traffic."
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