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Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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works ok for me after the update. Cinebench 1020 and CPU clock speed stays at 3ghz under load. Ran it several times and it's the same each time. 99fps for the GPU in cb opengl test, though that drops a couple of fps each time you run the test.

Temps still high, up to 95% during cb but I guess that's expected with this type of laptop body under extreme load and can be somewhat mitigated with external fans.

I was going to return this but will keep it now.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Congrats to Apple for handling this correctly: not suing the guy. The bad news is this escaped your QA process. That never would have happened 10 years ago.

Yeah, 10 years ago we were just frying mainboards with the NVIDIA chips and insufficient cooling: https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmodo.com/5061605/apple-confi...

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Glad to hear the fix works out for you. It's rare that apple will fix something like this so fast, but it's entirely possible this just slipped past QA since apple doesn't test throttling that thoroughly it seems.

Which is strange if they're not, because their sleek and slim designs would seem to allow a very minimal margin for error on heat dissipation. you would think that would be the subject of quite a bit of testing on the hardware side of things.

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Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Louis Rossmann on YouTube has a take on this "you're using it wrong" culture of Apple products I find interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hYHwkIuEMo

I find Louis hard to watch if I am honest. Yes I know Apple don't make the best products but let's be honest they are not actually that bad. I know he doesn't like Apple, he hates all the soldered components making things hard to impossible to repair, etc. He loves his ThinkPad's which is cool (I love them also) but I just got bored of his constant Apple hating.

> his constant Apple hating

I guess that's normal for someone fixing Apple stuff as his day job and thus always only seeing apples bad side. Especially with seemingly Apple not wanting such repairs to happen.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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It says the fix is for High Sierra. For everyone running Mojave on the new MBP, will there be a fix for that as well, or was it previously patched in Mojave already?

As Mojave is in beta right now, I don't think Apple feels obligated to rush out a Supplemental update like they did for their production OS. Also not sure how they would have already patched in Mojave if they hadn't had it fixed in HS when the hardware was released.

I expect the next Mojave beta release to resolve this, but don't expect the next release to come faster due to this bug.

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Has he tried setting it on his bare legs during the test?

Why would anyone put a high end laptop on their legs while doing a prolonged intensive task such as video rendering??

Once, the place I was staying in was so cold that I put my laptop onto a CPU intensive task and stuck it in between the covers as a sort of hi-tech hot water bottle.

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Whether it's trivial is irrelevant. It should never need to be done. Ads and tracking in the default OS is a scummy move by Microsoft.

Ubuntu did it with Amazon. Mozilla did it with Pocket. I'm sure there are endless other examples. Dismissing windows 10 as merely "adware" is inflammatory to the point of meaninglessness. It's really the kind of rhetoric I would expect on /g/ not here. The OP has also been rightly called out by others for his broad dismissal of linux.

You're right, it's not exactly adware. Adware is software that's supported by ads. Windows 10 users pay for it, and also get the ads (for free!), so technically it's worse than adware.

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There is and they should. But bugs tend to find a way anyway.

Yeah, but... let's be honest. This kind of integration flaw is a very... well, let's just say it's a very "Hewlett Packard" kind of bug, and the kind of thing we've come to not expect from "Apple Computer".

They're a small upcoming company, they're doing their best, let's cut them some slack.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Glad to hear the fix works out for you. It's rare that apple will fix something like this so fast, but it's entirely possible this just slipped past QA since apple doesn't test throttling that thoroughly it seems.

Which is strange if they're not, because their sleek and slim designs would seem to allow a very minimal margin for error on heat dissipation. you would think that would be the subject of quite a bit of testing on the hardware side of things.

Given the history of graphics issues (many of which where related to heat causing capacitors or GPUs to misbehave) I'm not at all surprised that their testing of heat-related issues is subpar to what you would expect. The fact they sell fan-less machines despite a history of heat-related issues in almost every solid-aluminimum-construction laptop they've released seems particularly negligent to me.

EDIT: If you'd like more information than just heresay, watch some of Louis Rossmann's videos on macbook heating problems (the video on tantalum capacitors is particularly interesting).

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Probably the MSR_TURBO_POWER_LIMIT value as described in https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/91256u/optimal_...

That analysis is incredible, how was the OP able to figure all of that out!?

If you're designing hardware, this is a thing that people know. The new Xps machines have the same VMR problem. Probably he tested for a known problem and bingo! I wonder if the discoverer works for any hardware design company.
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