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Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Post by paavoova »

tomp wrote: post #125
paavoova wrote: post #116

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You claim to be a "poweruser", but then go and speak out of pure ignorance when it comes to Linux. You say "Apple hardware is beyond superior", when in reality Apple glorifies form over function with soldered, unserviceable parts (and actively lobbies against self-repair), and removal of ports (very anti-poweruser, if you ask me), all of which turn their laptops into disposable gadgets meant for the consumer demograp…

> "Poweruser"? No, I feel the more accurate term would be power-consumer. Possibly. I guess there are many different kinds of powerusers. The interpretation I had in mind is that I use the computer (1) a lot, (2) not just for internet/media consumption, and (3) I use it to program so I want/need easy accessibility to many software packages (which is a problem on Windows, IME). Just because I can solve all of the prob…

If you use computers "a lot", the percentage of time required to learning a select few Linux userspace administrative tools, as well as the time dedicated to configuration and maintenance, is less than nothing compared to time spent on general everyday usage. The common perception that Linux is a timesink is false (not to mention most things are very much plug-and-play nowadays, e.g. networking via DHCP). And the benefits in doing so are huge, in that you now control your needs using a variety of independent tools, as opposed to the far more locked-in, proprietary solutions that Apple offers. I simply disagree with your claim that Macbooks are the best option for so-called power-users when on multiple aspects from hardware to software they're not. Macbooks/The Apple ecosystem is A choice, not THE choice.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

aroman wrote: post #41
skrause wrote: post #36

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Probably the MSR_TURBO_POWER_LIMIT value as described in https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/91256u/optimal_...

That analysis is incredible, how was the OP able to figure all of that out!?

Lots and lots of testing and lots of reading intel docs / example code on the internet. I probably ran cinebench and prime95 about 2000 times in the past few days.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Post by xvector »

verylittlemeat wrote: post #140
xvector wrote: post #126

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Whether it's trivial is irrelevant. It should never need to be done. Ads and tracking in the default OS is a scummy move by Microsoft.

Ubuntu did it with Amazon. Mozilla did it with Pocket. I'm sure there are endless other examples. Dismissing windows 10 as merely "adware" is inflammatory to the point of meaninglessness. It's really the kind of rhetoric I would expect on /g/ not here. The OP has also been rightly called out by others for his broad dismissal of linux.

I agree that Windows 10 should not be dismissed as adware. But just because Ubuntu and Mozilla did it doesn't make it right. It's something that absolutely shouldn't happen in the first place. Microsoft does not need to default to invasive tracking and ads in the default UX, and there's no question that it's an anti-consumer move in the first place.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Post by rsynnott »

sgillen wrote: post #61
alistairSH wrote: post #45

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It still seems like Apple’s quality control has gone way done over the last few years. I doubt it. They've had problems for years... bulging batteries, bad solder, bendy iPhones, etc. But, is the quality really going down, or is Apple just an easy target? I tend to think it's more of the later. I've had Lenovos and Dells for work and they've not been perfect.

That’s a good point, for me it’s more that I perceive that the quality of Apple quality control used to be very high, and now it’s coming down to earth. It’s this shift that has people upset I think not the fact that Apple products have more issues than those of other vendors.

A friend had one of those white G3 iBooks. It got replaced about five times, and I think they eventually gave him a successor G4 one. Apple's never been perfect.

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Post by ddtaylor »

satysin wrote: post #83
njloof wrote: post #52

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Has he tried setting it on his bare legs during the test?

Why would anyone put a high end laptop on their legs while doing a prolonged intensive task such as video rendering??

Louis Rossmann on YouTube has a take on this "you're using it wrong" culture of Apple products I find interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hYHwkIuEMo

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Post by sothym »

Kequc wrote: post #128
paavoova wrote: post #116

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You claim to be a "poweruser", but then go and speak out of pure ignorance when it comes to Linux. You say "Apple hardware is beyond superior", when in reality Apple glorifies form over function with soldered, unserviceable parts (and actively lobbies against self-repair), and removal of ports (very anti-poweruser, if you ask me), all of which turn their laptops into disposable gadgets meant for the consumer demograp…

Really? What's the best Linux distro/toolset to use in order to get anything to show up in a usable way in HDPI? I don't think you can buy new monitors anymore that are at low enough a resolution to support modern Linux.

What country are you living where you can't have access to such "old" monitors? An imaginary one?

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Post by fredsted »

ddtaylor wrote: post #155
satysin wrote: post #83

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Why would anyone put a high end laptop on their legs while doing a prolonged intensive task such as video rendering??

Louis Rossmann on YouTube has a take on this "you're using it wrong" culture of Apple products I find interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hYHwkIuEMo

All computers get really hot when doing stuff like video rendering, not really apple specific

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Post by gowld »

dpkonofa wrote: post #94
stcredzero wrote: post #24

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Watch a bunch of Louis Rossman YouTube videos. He knows all about the seedy underbelly of Macbook hardware design mistakes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AcEt073Uds

A few things that I take issue with here: 1) Louis Rossman has a vested interest in drumming up attention for his videos and has, on multiple occasions, used false statements and misleading practices to do so. Just like in the initial release video of the Touch Bar MBPs where he used an unshielded USB-A to USB-C cable and then complained that WiFi wasn't working. When used with a shielded cable, the issue went away a…

Apple charges a huge premium for their machines because they supposedly integrate design and QA so that they don't ship with broken video cards like cheap commodity computers do.

Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown

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Post by gruez »

jarjoura wrote: post #13
ketralnis wrote: post #2

> Following extensive performance testing under numerous workloads, we’ve identified that there is a missing digital key in the firmware that impacts the thermal management system and could drive clock speeds down under heavy thermal loads on the new MacBook Pro. A bug fix is included in today’s macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update and is recommended. We apologize to any customer who has experienced less tha…

My guess is a sensor requires a signed connection, much like how HDCP works. Seems a bit over-engineered if Apple is building protected sensors, but would also love to hear from someone in the know.

"key" as in dictionary key, not cryptographic key
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