Very impressive. I wonder how useful the existing GNUstep libraries would be for supporting at least some subset of GUI apps. I wonder how far at this point OS X's CoreFoundation etc. differ from what's in GNUstep.
GNUstep is stuck around half supporting Panther, if I remember correctly.
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People will never stop complaining about look and feel. It's such a crap, it doesn't matter. How much clothes do you own? Computers are tools to do work and consume information, they don't exist for you to make a statement about your aesthetics opinions.
Most (married) people are spending more time with their computers than their spouses. Would you marry an ugly woman? An ugly man?
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Repo even starts in 2011. The commit log doesn't look like momentum at all though... https://github.com/darlinghq/darling/graphs/commit-activity
That's because I (the author) still work on it alone and nobody wants to contribute. I receive tons of e-mails that go like "when will it run XYZ", but practically no pull requests.
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You're actually manipulating graphical data though, in that situation a GUI makes a lot of sense. Using a GUI for editing E-mail or joining a WI-FI network is silly, just like it is for most things people do with computers.
Are you truly managing email through a command line interface? Or are you using something like Pine? Isn't Pine just a GUI created out of characters instead of graphics? True GUI interfaces compared to ncurses type solutions offer way more fidelity and power.
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> The "professional" market doesn't care about visual cohesion. That isn't true at all. I spend all day in a handful of applications and good aesthetics make my day much more enjoyable.
People will never stop complaining about look and feel. It's such a crap, it doesn't matter. How much clothes do you own? Computers are tools to do work and consume information, they don't exist for you to make a statement about your aesthetics opinions.
Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The "professional" market doesn't care about visual cohesion. That isn't true at all. I spend all day in a handful of applications and good aesthetics make my day much more enjoyable.
People will never stop complaining about look and feel. It's such a crap, it doesn't matter. How much clothes do you own? Computers are tools to do work and consume information, they don't exist for you to make a statement about your aesthetics opinions.
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What about video editing? I mean, I can live with Audacity for my basic needs, but I can't find anything simple as iMovie. Or should I just bite the bullet and learn Blender? Does it have preset screen transitions and stuff like that?
Have you tried openshot[1]? I haven't played much with it recently, but when it came out it was the most stable, simple video editor for linux. [1] http://openshot.org/
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#208I am hoping that with cross platform Swift we can start seeing more libraries to help us port Mac apps to Linux. I am a Mac developer but I'd love to make stuff available on Linux. I really like Linux as a backup plan, in case Apple totally drops the ball on professionals on the Mac. The Linux desktop is getting pretty good, but it lacks well designed high quality GUI applications. If porting to Linux was done easier…
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Objective-C has been crossplatform for decades. The issue isn't the programming language, it's the GUI toolkits. Probably the best way to get cross-platform apps would be to improve Qt on Mac to the point where Mac apps were willing to use it.
> Probably the best way to get cross-platform apps would be to improve Qt on Mac to the point where Mac apps were willing to use it. I predict this won't ever happen. Whether fairly or not, Qt has a reputation for not feeling native, and this is extremely difficult to shake. And with Swift becoming the language of choice for Mac development, the use of C++ (not even standard C++: C++ with the moc preprocessor) is bec…
Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux
#210Great, so I can run OS X's shitty versions of Linux utilities... on Linux.