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Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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Very impressive. I wonder how useful the existing GNUstep libraries would be for supporting at least some subset of GUI apps. I wonder how far at this point OS X's CoreFoundation etc. differ from what's in GNUstep.

GNUstep is stuck around half supporting Panther, if I remember correctly.

They forked GNUStep for that.

Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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People will never stop complaining about look and feel. It's such a crap, it doesn't matter. How much clothes do you own? Computers are tools to do work and consume information, they don't exist for you to make a statement about your aesthetics opinions.

Most (married) people are spending more time with their computers than their spouses. Would you marry an ugly woman? An ugly man?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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Repo even starts in 2011. The commit log doesn't look like momentum at all though... https://github.com/darlinghq/darling/graphs/commit-activity

That's because I (the author) still work on it alone and nobody wants to contribute. I receive tons of e-mails that go like "when will it run XYZ", but practically no pull requests.

I hope more visibility can help, you can try to highlight more the need for contributions in the project homepage and in the github readme maybe

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post #132

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You're actually manipulating graphical data though, in that situation a GUI makes a lot of sense. Using a GUI for editing E-mail or joining a WI-FI network is silly, just like it is for most things people do with computers.

Are you truly managing email through a command line interface? Or are you using something like Pine? Isn't Pine just a GUI created out of characters instead of graphics? True GUI interfaces compared to ncurses type solutions offer way more fidelity and power.

nmh FTW!

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> The "professional" market doesn't care about visual cohesion. That isn't true at all. I spend all day in a handful of applications and good aesthetics make my day much more enjoyable.

People will never stop complaining about look and feel. It's such a crap, it doesn't matter. How much clothes do you own? Computers are tools to do work and consume information, they don't exist for you to make a statement about your aesthetics opinions.

Look and feel is more than just what colour an icon is, it's about how an application flows. Well designed applications enable you to be more productive, they usually also have had someone really think about what the experience should be as well which can help elevate them.

Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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> The "professional" market doesn't care about visual cohesion. That isn't true at all. I spend all day in a handful of applications and good aesthetics make my day much more enjoyable.

People will never stop complaining about look and feel. It's such a crap, it doesn't matter. How much clothes do you own? Computers are tools to do work and consume information, they don't exist for you to make a statement about your aesthetics opinions.

Some drive a utility van. Others a custom hotrod.

Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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post #134

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What about video editing? I mean, I can live with Audacity for my basic needs, but I can't find anything simple as iMovie. Or should I just bite the bullet and learn Blender? Does it have preset screen transitions and stuff like that?

Have you tried openshot[1]? I haven't played much with it recently, but when it came out it was the most stable, simple video editor for linux. [1] http://openshot.org/

No. Wow, a lot of great suggestions here. I need to test stuff now :)

Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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I am hoping that with cross platform Swift we can start seeing more libraries to help us port Mac apps to Linux. I am a Mac developer but I'd love to make stuff available on Linux. I really like Linux as a backup plan, in case Apple totally drops the ball on professionals on the Mac. The Linux desktop is getting pretty good, but it lacks well designed high quality GUI applications. If porting to Linux was done easier…

Linux has a lot of high quality apps, e.g. Krita, LibreOffice, Lightworks, Blender. Which programs from OSX don't have their Linux counterpart? With Qt/GTK/GNUstep you can make almost any app cross-platform.

Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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Objective-C has been crossplatform for decades. The issue isn't the programming language, it's the GUI toolkits. Probably the best way to get cross-platform apps would be to improve Qt on Mac to the point where Mac apps were willing to use it.

> Probably the best way to get cross-platform apps would be to improve Qt on Mac to the point where Mac apps were willing to use it. I predict this won't ever happen. Whether fairly or not, Qt has a reputation for not feeling native, and this is extremely difficult to shake. And with Swift becoming the language of choice for Mac development, the use of C++ (not even standard C++: C++ with the moc preprocessor) is bec…

On the other hand, in the JavaScript world we are piling more and more transpilers/preprocessors/postprocessors. I think the use of moc won't contribute much to the liability.
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