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Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
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Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
#202I like user andlarry's characterization: "very hill-climby optimization". The other technical CS term is "greedy".
This is related to a much less bad (but still kinda bad) thing that companies often do, namely sending smarmbot emails: http://blog.beeminder.com/smarmbot
You could call what Angel List sent "nonconsensual smarmbot emails".
Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was slightly miffed once when I said "You're right and I will apologize" and the other person insisted on hearing the words "I'm sorry". That person, however, was a Chinese high school student, not a native speaker of English. What's your excuse?
"I will apologize" and "please accept our apologies" are ways to distance the speaker from the actual act of apologizing, but are not the act itself. They lessen the pain of actually saying "I'm sorry". I think we only started to accept them as such when the phrasings became so pervasive because of business-speak. It's similar to the difference between "mistakes were made" and "I made a mistake".
> "I will apologize" and "please accept our apologies" are ways to distance the speaker from the actual act of apologizing, but are not the act itself. They lessen the pain of actually saying "I'm sorry".
This is not correct. They are the same speech act, at a higher level of formality.
Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
#204Hi there, I’m Dave and I work at AngelList on our Talent platform. Please accept our sincere apologies for what happened here. Sending an email without giving you a heads-up or control over its content was wrong. Here’s what we’re doing to fix it: * We’ve made it clearer that tagging a company on a project may notify them by email. * We’ve revised the project tagging email to clarify that it’s automatically generated…
... You've just lost a user
Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
#205When you say "pretending to be me" do you mean that they spoofed your email address in the from and/or reply-to fields? [edit: typo]
They used my name in the email from and reply-to fields, and to sign my name. I've replied to my original post with the actual email.
Thanks, that spells it out. Damn, that is fairly messed up.
I had a similar experience with F6S sending emails in my name so I know how uncomfortable it feels.
This is a shame and hopefully just a one-off error.
Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
AngelList is likely trying to determine whether this is a real company. How is that felony or fraud?
Has anyone tried to determine is AngelList is a real company? Their web site certainly claims they are, but I've never heard anything back from my repeated emails to team@angel.co, and I don't see them posting anything here. Even Sourceforge has better community outreach and reputation management. How is that not irony?
Yes, of course they are. They are registered and you can look this up using California's online business search, rather than grandstanding on an online forum.
It's dishonest of you to insinuate otherwise.
Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
#207Hi there, I’m Dave and I work at AngelList on our Talent platform. Please accept our sincere apologies for what happened here. Sending an email without giving you a heads-up or control over its content was wrong. Here’s what we’re doing to fix it: * We’ve made it clearer that tagging a company on a project may notify them by email. * We’ve revised the project tagging email to clarify that it’s automatically generated…
I'm speechless. That's an absolutely terrible idea. Are you guys trying to sends us all back to LinkedIn? Any kind of notification is a dead give away you're looking for another job. I guess this goes to show that AngelList is all about the "Angels" and gives no f*cks about the talent. Shameful and sad. Time to kiss AngelList goodbye.
How many upvotes do you have? I think this number could be interesting either way.
Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
#208When our CEO added me to our angel list account, I recieved this email from them: Hi [My Name], I'm building an AngelList profile for [our company] and need your help. Can you do me a favor and confirm that you're a team member by clicking here: https://angel.co/l/[shortlink] To prove that you're the real [My Name] you will be asked to create an account if you don't already have one. This is important to us; confirmi…
This is impersonation using a computer. Surely that's about 3 levels of computer fraud under US law, isn't it?
Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
#209Hi there, I’m Dave and I work at AngelList on our Talent platform. Please accept our sincere apologies for what happened here. Sending an email without giving you a heads-up or control over its content was wrong. Here’s what we’re doing to fix it: * We’ve made it clearer that tagging a company on a project may notify them by email. * We’ve revised the project tagging email to clarify that it’s automatically generated…
I'm speechless. That's an absolutely terrible idea. Are you guys trying to sends us all back to LinkedIn? Any kind of notification is a dead give away you're looking for another job. I guess this goes to show that AngelList is all about the "Angels" and gives no f*cks about the talent. Shameful and sad. Time to kiss AngelList goodbye.
Oh Angellist, how I will avoid you now like a plague.
I had such high hopes for you. Sigh...back to face to face networking.
Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes the sentiment is the same, but it takes little historical understanding to see how tearing down is always easier and more exciting than building up. What works at a startup often can't work at a big company. Or a university. Or a government. You have to work with the system you have. For those that leave angellist without a second thought, what are your alternatives? LinkedIn?
was thinking about this just now. how easy it is to influence people over the internet through mediums like reddit, HN, etc. as soon as something gains enough upvotes, it becomes the truth.
Watch "century of the self" and thank me later.