So from what I've read so far they are trying to deanonymize TOR users by having a large number of relays in the network. This isn't an unknown attack vector. But surely the NSA could easily do the same. What's to say that half the relays aren't already NSA owned?
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#22Colour me surprised.
Given that a bunch affiliated with the group's names, addresses, numbers and the like have been compromised, this doesn't seem like a very smart plan.
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#23PLEASE stop calling them hackers. They're DDoS kiddies who have now switched to spinning up TOR on their botnet. THESE ARE NOT HACKERS.
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#24So from what I've read so far they are trying to deanonymize TOR users by having a large number of relays in the network. This isn't an unknown attack vector. But surely the NSA could easily do the same. What's to say that half the relays aren't already NSA owned?
Because if you create 3000 TOR relays in an hour it's easy for everyone to notice them and not use them.
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#25PLEASE stop calling them hackers. They're DDoS kiddies who have now switched to spinning up TOR on their botnet. THESE ARE NOT HACKERS.
At this point Hack is just a marketing/media term and Lisp nerds from MIT no longer have any say in the matter. Let it go.
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#27PLEASE stop calling them hackers. They're DDoS kiddies who have now switched to spinning up TOR on their botnet. THESE ARE NOT HACKERS.
When someone has the possibility of doing a Sybil attack, no matter what they did before, you take that shit seriously. As of now, we don't know if the goal is to really test their 0day (which, if it's a Sybil isn't exactly 0day) or just popping up 3360 exit nodes to give "free" bandwidth.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because if you create 3000 TOR relays in an hour it's easy for everyone to notice them and not use them.
True. But if you do it over a long period... TOR has been around a while now. How can you possibly vet all owners? Surely most relay owners would prefer to remain anonymous.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you say this? Do we know exactly what they've done?
Lizard Squad has access to a large botnet which they used to DDoS Sony and Microsoft and now to create a large number of TOR relays. It's not hacking. It's not even being a script kiddie.
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#30PLEASE stop calling them hackers. They're DDoS kiddies who have now switched to spinning up TOR on their botnet. THESE ARE NOT HACKERS.
Please understand the problem. Calling them "Hackers", or "Black hats" or whatever fucking term is NOT the issue. When someone has the possibility of doing a Sybil attack, no matter what they did before, you take that shit seriously. As of now, we don't know if the goal is to really test their 0day (which, if it's a Sybil isn't exactly 0day) or just popping up 3360 exit nodes to give "free" bandwidth.