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Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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So from what I've read so far they are trying to deanonymize TOR users by having a large number of relays in the network. This isn't an unknown attack vector. But surely the NSA could easily do the same. What's to say that half the relays aren't already NSA owned?

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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So from what I've read so far they are trying to deanonymize TOR users by having a large number of relays in the network. This isn't an unknown attack vector. But surely the NSA could easily do the same. What's to say that half the relays aren't already NSA owned?

You make me wonder if there is yet another way of compromising TOR, to ask each intelligence service to contribute a small fraction of their capacity to TOR so that the vast majority of the nodes is owned by some agency, who then exchange data through some back channel. Harder to detect and with far more resources than any single agency could provide.

Or is the NSA so large that it dwarfs the resources the rest of the world could contribute?

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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first off, quit calling them hackers. they aren't hackers. they are script kiddies.

Calling them script kiddies is not productive either. They're hackers by the now commonly accepted definition as used in the media. That ship sailed ages ago, but if you want to bicker about what to call them the correct term is probably something along the lines of cyber criminals.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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So from what I've read so far they are trying to deanonymize TOR users by having a large number of relays in the network. This isn't an unknown attack vector. But surely the NSA could easily do the same. What's to say that half the relays aren't already NSA owned?

You make me wonder if there is yet another way of compromising TOR, to ask each intelligence service to contribute a small fraction of their capacity to TOR so that the vast majority of the nodes is owned by some agency, who then exchange data through some back channel. Harder to detect and with far more resources than any single agency could provide. Or is the NSA so large that it dwarfs the resources the rest of th…

I don't think its out the realms of possibility for any intelligence agency to set up a LOT of servers at different ISPs with different credit cards and account owners.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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first off, quit calling them hackers. they aren't hackers. they are script kiddies.

What makes you say this? Do we know exactly what they've done?

Lizard Squad has access to a large botnet which they used to DDoS Sony and Microsoft and now to create a large number of TOR relays. It's not hacking. It's not even being a script kiddie.
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