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As Many as 5K .Com’s Taken Away by Sealed Court Order by Verisign

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Re: As Many as 5K .Com’s Taken Away by Sealed Court Order by Verisign

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I'll be following this case. I don't understand why this would be filed under seal. I'd enjoy some legal experts comments on the matter.

It's really difficult for anyone to speculate on a sealed court order.

Probably a deal gone bad and the person convinced a judge that if it went through normal channels the persons owning the domains would liquidate them. That or the transfer was deemed illegal in the first place.

A quick google for Robert Olea reveals he is a domain broker.

Re: As Many as 5K .Com’s Taken Away by Sealed Court Order by Verisign

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All you really need to read is the language, they aren't people they're 'shady domain land grabbers'. You can tell from the language that the OP knew of an opportunity to buy mispriced assets and/or renew their domain, and having failed to take the opportunity is now upset at others having taken the opportunities they missed. You know the kind of people that couldn't be bothered to spend $90 for a 10 year registratio…

Given that you have 75 days to renew your domain after it's lapsed renewal - it's not really taking advantage of anyone. There has to be some mechanism to release unused & unregistered domains back to the market. And careful - you just dehumanized an entire set of people ("they're not people") because of the work they do. Domainners might be annoying - but they're not gangsters.

They're not gangsters they're squaters. They seem to have been out squated by another domain squater. Should have had his insight.

Re: As Many as 5K .Com’s Taken Away by Sealed Court Order by Verisign

#24
Everything to do with the DNS system is so corrupt and shady. Half the domains dropping in the new GTLD process are "unavailable", "registered", etc. We tried to get an exact trademark for one of our companies in the new GTLD system during the Sunrise phase only to be told by Gandi that the new GTLD owner rejected it. We pushed it pretty hard and had a back and forth with Gandi's CEO who was pretty much on our side but the new GTLD owner (Demand Media) wouldn't budge. We have to sue them if we want it. That's what the privatized DNS system has come to.

You know who I feel bad for though? Those people who originally registered big corporate brands .COM in the 90s and had their domains ripped from them. That shit is ICANN endorsed nowadays.

Re: As Many as 5K .Com’s Taken Away by Sealed Court Order by Verisign

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post #15

Another incident that tells us we need to move towards something more decentralized. Namecoin is an excellent concept and idea, it's a pity it is not used and supported more widely.

There is a namecoin dev introduction thread filled with their various projects and a few calls to action on /r/namecoin if you're interested. https://reddit.com/r/namecoin

I actually do some work on Namecoin, and need to post in that thread. The current namecoind is based on a horribly old version of bitcoin, and we could really use some donations to help get a rewrite against something more maintainable done.

Re: As Many as 5K .Com’s Taken Away by Sealed Court Order by Verisign

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post #3

This reminds me a lot of the no-ip.com case. Did anyone ever find out how that was resolved? Apparently Microsoft gave back the domains[1], but did they face any payments for damages or censure? [1] http://www.noip.com/blog/2014/07/10/microsoft-takedown-detai...

Out of court settlement. Microsoft and No-ip both issued press releases/updates to their original blog posts about it. No details about the settlement were released but No-IP certainly got paid.

Details are obviously not public, but noip did not receive any money as a result. Regardless of popular opinion on the matter, Microsoft managed to get a lot of harmful malware shut down.

Re: As Many as 5K .Com’s Taken Away by Sealed Court Order by Verisign

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post #15

Another incident that tells us we need to move towards something more decentralized. Namecoin is an excellent concept and idea, it's a pity it is not used and supported more widely.

What if the 5,000 domains were seized and shut down to prevent a massive worm that had compromised millions of computers and would result in massive theft against millions of consumers?

In the vast majority of cases law enforcement and court actions against domains are justifiable and benefit the internet.

Re: As Many as 5K .Com’s Taken Away by Sealed Court Order by Verisign

#29
Interesting reading the comments, seems DreamTeamFinancial.com went bankrupt and the domains were seized as part of the assets, even though some (many?) had been transferred elsewhere. I would guess you could get an injunction forbidding the domain seller who was liquidating the names from selling them until ownership was more closely established but it does seem like there is an education gap on domains that are "owned" by a company who then doesn't pay to renew them so they simply 'lose' ownership rather than selling them.

Re: As Many as 5K .Com’s Taken Away by Sealed Court Order by Verisign

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post #28
post #15

Another incident that tells us we need to move towards something more decentralized. Namecoin is an excellent concept and idea, it's a pity it is not used and supported more widely.

What if the 5,000 domains were seized and shut down to prevent a massive worm that had compromised millions of computers and would result in massive theft against millions of consumers? In the vast majority of cases law enforcement and court actions against domains are justifiable and benefit the internet.

>In the vast majority of cases law enforcement and court actions against domains are justifiable and benefit the internet.

Based on what stats?

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