Is there a way to see what information Apple and Google has given to the US government through PRISM? I'm not radical anymore, I'm just curious what boring topics they had to listen to over the years to ensure I'm not a threat.
I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
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Re: I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
#22What really worries me about this is that anyone can effectively request anyone else's data because there is no identity verification.
It is a crime under 5 USC 552a(i)(3) https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/552a : > Any person who knowingly and willfully requests or obtains any record concerning an individual from an agency under false pretenses shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and fined not more than $5,000.
Re: I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
#23What do you think would happen if an european citizen were to request a GDPR data deletion of the US Department of Homeland Security? Is there any chance that they would comply?
Re: I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
#24You might not want to do this without good reason, it can get you put on some kind of list.
And hey, as faint as that hope may be: if things do change in a positive manner, people might scramble to fake proof they (or their parents) weren't just idle or even complicit. The same list of persecuted dissidents today might tomorrow serve as a whitelist for voting rights, among other things.
Re: I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
#25Is there a way to see what information Apple and Google has given to the US government through PRISM? I'm not radical anymore, I'm just curious what boring topics they had to listen to over the years to ensure I'm not a threat.
Not knowledge, just random thoughts: Could they return "We can not give you that information because it is a matter of national security." (Although that's still a sign that they have info on you that they gathered from Big Tech). Or they could give you pages and pages covered with black rectangles from margin to margin. The scary thing is, they wouldn't have done any manual listening/monitoring, all the data can jus…
Re: I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
#26Is there a way to see what information Apple and Google has given to the US government through PRISM? I'm not radical anymore, I'm just curious what boring topics they had to listen to over the years to ensure I'm not a threat.
Nice try;)
Re: I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
#27Is there a way to see what information Apple and Google has given to the US government through PRISM? I'm not radical anymore, I'm just curious what boring topics they had to listen to over the years to ensure I'm not a threat.
Re: I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
#28Is there a way to see what information Apple and Google has given to the US government through PRISM? I'm not radical anymore, I'm just curious what boring topics they had to listen to over the years to ensure I'm not a threat.
Re: I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is a crime under 5 USC 552a(i)(3) https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/552a : > Any person who knowingly and willfully requests or obtains any record concerning an individual from an agency under false pretenses shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and fined not more than $5,000.
5,000$ USD might be worth it for a paparazzo or other neerdewel.
Re: I requested my photographs from the Department of Homeland Security (2015)
#30Is there a way to see what information Apple and Google has given to the US government through PRISM? I'm not radical anymore, I'm just curious what boring topics they had to listen to over the years to ensure I'm not a threat.
Obviously, a broad sweep program can collect unrelated data, which presumably was part of the concern with PRISM. This has sort of always been the case, i.e. if you put a bug in someone's house, you hear everything said in the house, whether by the subject of your investigation or their kids or a housekeeper or whatever. But whoever is listening is supposed to immediately throw away data as soon as they can determine it isn't needed for their investigation.
So theoretically, if they ever collected anything that came from you, and you were never the subject of an investigation that resulted in a warrant to collect on you, the data should have been discarded and could not be given to you.
You may or may not believe the NSA actually complies with the law, but if they don't, they're probably not going to tell you.