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Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API

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Post by MattGaiser »

superluserdo wrote: post #15
mrkramer wrote: post #9

Why would Google pay for this when they already crawled and are crawling whole Wikipedia and have complete index of it? Better way for Wikipedia to earn extra revenue are affiliate links. A lot of people when they read and learn about some topic go to Amazon and buy a book about that topic. Wikipedia could embed book affiliate links and earn commission from book sales.

That sounds like a horribly perverse incentive for the world's main free and open source of information.

Perverse incentives for book authors too. You could create a industry generating books to cite on Wikipedia.

Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API

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Post by MattGaiser »

willcipriano wrote: post #19
theamk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Google scraping your sites is a bad thing, you want to set "nosnippet" tags on your page [0]. If Google scraping your sites is a good thing, then why are you complaining? I hope Google never starts paying for the links. Once there is a precedent, this becomes an effective blocker for the new search engines, visualizers, and other exciting web search startups. A new search engine startup is not going to be able to…

I similarly require that producers of motion pictures say "nosteal" at some point in the opening credits otherwise I assume I am free to make copies of the film to share with the internet.

VHS/DVD's used to have these when they were around.

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Post by busyant »

mrkramer wrote: post #9

Why would Google pay for this when they already crawled and are crawling whole Wikipedia and have complete index of it? Better way for Wikipedia to earn extra revenue are affiliate links. A lot of people when they read and learn about some topic go to Amazon and buy a book about that topic. Wikipedia could embed book affiliate links and earn commission from book sales.

> affiliate links

Sounds well-intentioned, but it would be immediately gamed by every unscrupulous entity and ruin Wikipedia.

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Post by robjan »

mrkramer wrote: post #20
superluserdo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like a horribly perverse incentive for the world's main free and open source of information.

I mean Wikipedia offers basic information about some topic it's not like you are about to get deep insight unless you buy a book. And I bet Wikipedia generated millions of book sales like I said people who read an article from Wikipedia and went to Amazon or Google to search for a book.

If Wikipedia starts to receive commission for selling books the incentive changes from recommending the best book to the one who pays then the most

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Post by easton »

vosper wrote: post #16
mrkramer wrote: post #9

Why would Google pay for this when they already crawled and are crawling whole Wikipedia and have complete index of it? Better way for Wikipedia to earn extra revenue are affiliate links. A lot of people when they read and learn about some topic go to Amazon and buy a book about that topic. Wikipedia could embed book affiliate links and earn commission from book sales.

> Why would Google pay for this when they already crawled and are crawling whole Wikipedia and have complete index of it? Google's not the only enterprise out there :) I believe Wikipedia's taxonomy is used by lots of people for ML purposes, for example.

But for ML you’d probably want to download the whole thing anyway, considering it’s only like 47GB. I doubt many people want to make a model on only soccer pages or something.
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