Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
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Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
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Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
#2Very cool. I hope Wikipedia sees success with this strategy!
Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
#3Over time, I believe more public non-profit sites will introduce this. Then for-profit sites. Until Google eventually pays for most of the valuable content it gets today for free.
I own multiple sites where I and my users work to produce valuable data (e.g “so so company reviews”, “Is tenet on Disney” and other data of that kind). And what does Google do? Scrap it all and display it on their page. As a result, the page links gets millions of impressions but tens of clicks. Thus, the sites cannot be monetized. Any reasonable person knows this can’t go on for long before the free and open web comes crashing down or Google (and others like it) pays its due.
Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
#4Over time, I believe more public non-profit sites will introduce this. Then for-profit sites. Until Google eventually pays for most of the valuable content it gets today for free. I own multiple sites where I and my users work to produce valuable data (e.g “so so company reviews”, “Is tenet on Disney” and other data of that kind). And what does Google do? Scrap it all and display it on their page. As a result, the pa…
> I own multiple sites where I and my users work to produce valuable data
How much do you pay your users for the content they generate?
Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
#5Over time, I believe more public non-profit sites will introduce this. Then for-profit sites. Until Google eventually pays for most of the valuable content it gets today for free. I own multiple sites where I and my users work to produce valuable data (e.g “so so company reviews”, “Is tenet on Disney” and other data of that kind). And what does Google do? Scrap it all and display it on their page. As a result, the pa…
I suspect this project was pushed by Google, to make importing wiki data to their knowledge graph more convenient for them.
Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
#6Over time, I believe more public non-profit sites will introduce this. Then for-profit sites. Until Google eventually pays for most of the valuable content it gets today for free. I own multiple sites where I and my users work to produce valuable data (e.g “so so company reviews”, “Is tenet on Disney” and other data of that kind). And what does Google do? Scrap it all and display it on their page. As a result, the pa…
I suspect this project was pushed by Google, to make importing wiki data to their knowledge graph more convenient for them.
Google already have their own knowledge graph that is much bigger than the Wikipedia graph, and they already scrape every Wikipedia page daily so they don't need a Wikipedia API.
Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
#7Over time, I believe more public non-profit sites will introduce this. Then for-profit sites. Until Google eventually pays for most of the valuable content it gets today for free. I own multiple sites where I and my users work to produce valuable data (e.g “so so company reviews”, “Is tenet on Disney” and other data of that kind). And what does Google do? Scrap it all and display it on their page. As a result, the pa…
If Google scraping your sites is a bad thing, you want to set "nosnippet" tags on your page [0].
If Google scraping your sites is a good thing, then why are you complaining?
I hope Google never starts paying for the links. Once there is a precedent, this becomes an effective blocker for the new search engines, visualizers, and other exciting web search startups. A new search engine startup is not going to be able to establish a commercial relationship with every site on the web like Google could.
[0] https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/appearanc...
Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect this project was pushed by Google, to make importing wiki data to their knowledge graph more convenient for them.
Google already have their own knowledge graph that is much bigger than the Wikipedia graph, and they already scrape every Wikipedia page daily so they don't need a Wikipedia API.
For hot topics, search engine wants to scrap every minute, not daily, now wikimedia will provide them with such feed.
Also, they need to have team of engineers, who support infobox extractor, now this work will be done by wikimedia.
Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
#9Why would Google pay for this when they already crawled and are crawling whole Wikipedia and have complete index of it?
Better way for Wikipedia to earn extra revenue are affiliate links. A lot of people when they read and learn about some topic go to Amazon and buy a book about that topic. Wikipedia could embed book affiliate links and earn commission from book sales.
Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API
#10Great, just a shame it isn't more 'tradititionally' transparent & democratised IMO. Claims no custom contracts, but is enterprise sales team contact us anyway, for example.
.proto on GitHub is nice, but no pricing, no public docs? This is probably great for Wikimedia coffers, but at the headline I hoped for new/improved Wikidata; instead it's.. different bordering on 'don't care'.