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Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by ekianjo » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:30 AM UTC

ubidubbiiui wrote: post #19

Jnr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I remember correctly, Valve started doing this some time ago as an "insurance policy", when Microsoft spoke about locking down Windows (before they introduced Windows Store). It is amazing to see how far Linux gaming has come since then. 10 years ago almost none of the big games worked, 5 years ago lots of games worked after fiddling with wine config, and now most of the games I have tried work out of the box afte…

Call me optimistic, but I imagine a larger amount of "most" work out of the box by then.

A lot of games now don't work because of anti-cheat technologies. But Valve is working on this with Codeweavers with their refactoring of NTDLL.

Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by nextaccountic » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:32 AM UTC

minetest2048 wrote: post #4

mosselman wrote: post #2

Valve is doing god’s work when it comes to Linux gaming. I have played over 40 hours of GTA V without many troubles. The game looks great and performs great. So glad I could get rid of my windows install.

I think that the only gaming company that actively improve Linux gaming is only Valve. Compare this to Stadia, where I never see any news on them contributing to the Linux gaming stack

Well.. and Aspyr for porting. And CodeWeavers for employing Wine devs.

And Collabora: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2020/10/collabora-expect-their...

Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by minetest2048 » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:35 AM UTC

nextaccountic wrote: post #22

minetest2048 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that the only gaming company that actively improve Linux gaming is only Valve. Compare this to Stadia, where I never see any news on them contributing to the Linux gaming stack

Well.. and Aspyr for porting. And CodeWeavers for employing Wine devs. And Collabora: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2020/10/collabora-expect-their...

Right, I forgot about those Linux porting companies such as Aspyr and Feral Interactive. And Collabora isn't specifically a gaming company, but they and CodeWeavers also helps

Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by zufallsheld » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:36 AM UTC

Noxmiles wrote: post #14

How do we deserve Valve? Okay: Any possibility to support their open source work? (except of using steam)

Buy their games without steam.

Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by arc-in-space » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:37 AM UTC

wiradikusuma wrote: post #12

I have a huge (already downloaded) library on Steam Windows. Does anyone know how to "share" the game resources so that the Linux version only download the executable/runner?

Watch out, the suggestions in the other replies are hazardous. It's possible to add your windows Steam library to a Linux client, after mounting the windows partition, and this will work fine most of the time(so you could still give it a try). However, you're also likely to run into annoying-to-debug issues due to Linux's mishandling of ntfs.

I've eventually given up on this method, and I'm not sure if there is a good solution. I ended up just buying more hard drive and selectively installing the games I want in linux partitions.

Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by AshleysBrain » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:41 AM UTC

It's cool seeing the tech develop to run D3D/OpenGL on Vulkan/DX12/Metal, moving a lot of code out of drivers and in to libraries. But in the long term apps should all end up using Vulkan/DX12/Metal themselves directly (or modern derivatives) - so there won't be many uses for the old legacy D3D/OpenGL stacks left, so these libraries will probably fall out of use too. So, nice for the short/medium term, but probably no longer relevant in the long term.

Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by devwastaken » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:42 AM UTC

I tested the other day on ubuntu 18.04. yes, proton can run crysis. But the in game videos are real laggy. That's a pretty great feat in itself.

Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by devwastaken » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:45 AM UTC

AshleysBrain wrote: post #26

It's cool seeing the tech develop to run D3D/OpenGL on Vulkan/DX12/Metal, moving a lot of code out of drivers and in to libraries. But in the long term apps should all end up using Vulkan/DX12/Metal themselves directly (or modern derivatives) - so there won't be many uses for the old legacy D3D/OpenGL stacks left, so these libraries will probably fall out of use too. So, nice for the short/medium term, but probably n…

I don't believe opengl is going anywhere. It's still heavily embedded in modern gaming everywhere. If anything a translation layer from opengl to vulkan would be the direction.

Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by cannedslime » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:48 AM UTC

I really hope I can play all my games on linux one day. Right now I only play Age of empires 2 definitive edition, anybody knows if i can play it ranked on linux?

Re: Valve Is Working on Another Extension to Help in Direct3D-over-Vulkan

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Post by ricardo81 » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:50 AM UTC

mosselman wrote: post #2

Valve is doing god’s work when it comes to Linux gaming. I have played over 40 hours of GTA V without many troubles. The game looks great and performs great. So glad I could get rid of my windows install.

I bought Civ 6 for Linux purely because it was available on Linux. Bought from Steam. It does seem like they're pushing things in the right direction for Linux gaming.