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What a coincidence - I was just watching this month old interview a few hours before it was posted here. Maybe Youtube's algo is pushing it... Anyway, the way Joscha explained various concepts was very interesting - the phrases he used kept me hooked. At the very least it's entertaining. For example: "Social media is the world's brain hooked on dopamine - creating a permanent seizure" "Entropic Abyss" "Closed Cooling…
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Mostly because he the object which creates the ideas and interacting with us is not his genes/body/brain but on the most abstract level it's his neural system, and the imperative you're talking about is imposed by his genes on his neural system (via brain wiring + hormones). Since Joscha says that being adult means taking control of your emotions (I guess, to a point), so they serve your goals, and you're not at thei…
I'm pretty sure that's not what Joscha meant by taking control of your emotions. His point was certainly more in the direction of not unnecessarily suffering or creating harm by following your emotions. Following your emotions regarding kids, helping them to raise and become good people, feeling fulfilled doing it, I can't see anything wrong with that. You could even see kids as advancing the knowledge through them.…
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Why do you find him expressing sadness about him not being able to pass on his genetics, perplexing? Its a primal evolutionary imperative. While possible the rate of child having is very low in same sex relationships in comparrison to the hetro relationships is higher.
Mostly because he the object which creates the ideas and interacting with us is not his genes/body/brain but on the most abstract level it's his neural system, and the imperative you're talking about is imposed by his genes on his neural system (via brain wiring + hormones). Since Joscha says that being adult means taking control of your emotions (I guess, to a point), so they serve your goals, and you're not at thei…
And from a pure short sentence, you can't read anything out of it.
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I'm pretty sure that's not what Joscha meant by taking control of your emotions. His point was certainly more in the direction of not unnecessarily suffering or creating harm by following your emotions. Following your emotions regarding kids, helping them to raise and become good people, feeling fulfilled doing it, I can't see anything wrong with that. You could even see kids as advancing the knowledge through them.…
But children aren't obligated to pass on their genes in order to appease their parents. Parents only get to pass on genes for one generation, and get no further control over the process. To worry about having children because they might not have grandchildren is to be unfairly controlling over the future of children.
You can have feelings without acting on them, but just perceive them. When Joscha talks about controlling your emotions this certainly would go into this direction.
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But children aren't obligated to pass on their genes in order to appease their parents. Parents only get to pass on genes for one generation, and get no further control over the process. To worry about having children because they might not have grandchildren is to be unfairly controlling over the future of children.
Feeling sad about it doesn't mean you're going to force your children having children. You can have feelings without acting on them, but just perceive them. When Joscha talks about controlling your emotions this certainly would go into this direction.
I don't think being sad about reproduction choices of your children is beneficial, therefore I'd also suggest dealing with it. In the end it's just influence of your genes saying 'go, do something, talk to them, we need to be replicated'
He is definitely one of the most interesting people to listen to when it comes to AI, Intelligence and Philosophy. I've seen him in Leipzig on CCC events in the past, here are some of his other talks: * Computational Meta-Intelligence (32C3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRdJCFEqFTU * Machine Dreams (33C3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5nJ5l6dl2s * The Ghost in the Machine (35C3): https://www.youtube.com/watch…
He is definitely one of the most interesting people to listen to when it comes to AI, Intelligence and Philosophy. I've seen him in Leipzig on CCC events in the past, here are some of his other talks: * Computational Meta-Intelligence (32C3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRdJCFEqFTU * Machine Dreams (33C3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5nJ5l6dl2s * The Ghost in the Machine (35C3): https://www.youtube.com/watch…
I can't absorb complex ideas very well from speech. Any good links for written materials that offer good bite-sized introductions to his ideas?
Depending on what interests you, maybe also look at the abstracts of his research papers?
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Feeling sad about it doesn't mean you're going to force your children having children. You can have feelings without acting on them, but just perceive them. When Joscha talks about controlling your emotions this certainly would go into this direction.
In one of his appearances (maybe on the Fridman's show) he gave an example of being overly attached to outcomes of elections wrt to success of your favorite political party (being frustrated and sad when the party/president is not in power). His idea was that such feeling are not conductive to your wellbeing, and you should maybe do something about them, (just guessing: rationalizing it, meditating it out or somesuch…
Feeling sad about something, doesn't mean you're sad about it all the time, that's suffering. You just can't control every emotion in you and there's also no need for it, it's just part of being human. Trying to control every emotion is certainly more harmful than accepting them.
> In the end it's just influence of your genes saying 'go, do something, talk to them, we need to be replicated'
Do you really think that why Joscha works in AI and his desire to expand the knowledge has nothing to do with his genes?
I've seen the interview in June, and was following Joscha's twitter feed since. Although a lot of good stuff, some of his views are a bit perplexing: * If his offspring would turn homosexual, he'd be sad about them being "evolutionary dead-end" (tho, he'd still support them in any way possible) - cannot find the tweet now, he probably deleted it * He expresses a dim view of US' future (its institutions) esp. in the l…
Why do you find him expressing sadness about him not being able to pass on his genetics, perplexing? Its a primal evolutionary imperative. While possible the rate of child having is very low in same sex relationships in comparrison to the hetro relationships is higher.
Raising a kid is a meaningful experience, but the kids haircolor doesn't matter much.