Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality [video]
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#3What a coincidence - I was just watching this month old interview a few hours before it was posted here. Maybe Youtube's algo is pushing it...
Anyway, the way Joscha explained various concepts was very interesting - the phrases he used kept me hooked. At the very least it's entertaining.
For example:
"Social media is the world's brain hooked on dopamine - creating a permanent seizure"
"Entropic Abyss"
"Closed Cooling Chain"
Interesting guy with an interesting upbringing (grew up in Eastern Germany - his site http://bach.ai).
It's a long interview - but here is the breakdown of topics being discussed (time stamps taken from the comments section)
0:00 - Introduction
3:14 - Reverse engineering Joscha Bach
10:38 - Nature of truth
18:47 - Original thinking
23:14 - Sentience vs intelligence
31:45 - Mind vs Reality
46:51 - Hard problem of consciousness
51:09 - Connection between the mind and the universe
56:29 - What is consciousness
1:02:32 - Language and concepts
1:09:02 - Meta-learning
1:16:35 - Spirit
1:18:10 - Our civilization may not exist for long
1:37:48 - Twitter and social media
1:44:52 - What systems of government might work well?
1:47:12 - The way out of self-destruction with AI
1:55:18 - AI simulating humans to understand its own nature
2:04:32 - Reinforcement learning
2:09:12 - Commonsense reasoning
2:15:47 - Would AGI need to have a body?
2:22:34 - Neuralink
2:27:01 - Reasoning at the scale of neurons and societies
2:37:16 - Role of emotion
2:48:03 - Happiness is a cookie that your brain bakes for itself
EDIT: clarity
Re: Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality [video]
#4The day a machine is gonna try to have a conversation with me I'm gonna smash it the concrete way! keep dreaming about the perfect creature/slave/SEXBOT :D
Re: Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality [video]
#5He is definitely one of the most interesting people to listen to when it comes to AI, Intelligence and Philosophy. I've seen him in Leipzig on CCC events in the past, here are some of his other talks:
* Computational Meta-Intelligence (32C3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRdJCFEqFTU
* Machine Dreams (33C3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5nJ5l6dl2s
* The Ghost in the Machine (35C3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3K5UxWRRuY&t=2516s
He also did a very interesting podcast episode with Fefe and Frank from alternativlos! (in German): https://alternativlos.org/42/
Re: Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality [video]
#6I really love his emphasis on modelling as a skill. Its obviously great applied to technical skills like computer science, but he seems to apply it to everything else in the human experience so well.
"everything that we sense is part of the same object ... we learn it all into one model ... we call this model the universe" https://youtu.be/P-2P3MSZrBM?t=1796
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#7I was quite intrigued by semi-proposal of building a meta social network (it starts around 1:37:45). He proposes a service where anyone can start a social network using any features of existing ones (Facebook feed, Twitter conversation, Reddit threads...), with each network cultivating its own rules and reward function (criteria for what content is reshared or upvoted).
On one hand it's over-ambitious and doomed to fail, and yet it could lead to more coherent and constructive hive mind.
Re: Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality [video]
#8I really love his emphasis on modelling as a skill. Its obviously great applied to technical skills like computer science, but he seems to apply it to everything else in the human experience so well. "everything that we sense is part of the same object ... we learn it all into one model ... we call this model the universe" https://youtu.be/P-2P3MSZrBM?t=1796
Reminds me of "the world is its own best model" and the subsumption architecture of Rodney Brooks:
Re: Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality [video]
#9I really love his emphasis on modelling as a skill. Its obviously great applied to technical skills like computer science, but he seems to apply it to everything else in the human experience so well. "everything that we sense is part of the same object ... we learn it all into one model ... we call this model the universe" https://youtu.be/P-2P3MSZrBM?t=1796
Everything is a model.
The only thing that exists to the mind And actually in the world is models.
Re: Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality [video]
#10I've seen the interview in June, and was following Joscha's twitter feed since.
Although a lot of good stuff, some of his views are a bit perplexing:
* If his offspring would turn homosexual, he'd be sad about them being "evolutionary dead-end" (tho, he'd still support them in any way possible) - cannot find the tweet now, he probably deleted it
* He expresses a dim view of US' future (its institutions) esp. in the light of current events. It's sometimes visible in his tweets and speeches. But he's so vague in his predictions, that 10 years down the road I wouldn't be able to tell if he have been right or wrong no matter what the situation will be
tangent point: the company he currently works for - AI Foundation - had some deal/interaction with our dear Deepak Chopra - who is as anti-intellectual as a public persona can be - so my question is 'why' - tho this could be before Joscha's tenure there... but still it feels bad (https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191205005164/en/Dee...) (https://aifoundation.com/author/lars_butler/)
But he loves Stanislaw Lem, and according to the interview he was the first author that he felt was worth reading his books had profound impact on him when he was young, so that's nice, b/c Lem is a genius - who is also a bit underrated in the western world - as opposed to the former eastern block :)