Tear Gas Is Way More Dangerous Than Police Let On - Especially During COVID

Post by zaroth » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

JadeNB wrote: post #15

war1025 wrote: post #2

> Especially During COVID Public gatherings are supposedly extremely dangerous right now. The fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests we got the severity of Coronavirus wrong and people are using this as a convenient out for backing off shelter in place orders without losing face. In February the "Philly had a parade, St Louis Stayed home" article was being shared by here and everywhere else. Fr…

> The fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests we got the severity of Coronavirus wrong and people are using this as a convenient out for backing off shelter in place orders without losing face. Wait a minute, who is suddenly for mass protests? Well, the protestors are, obviously, at least in the sense that they think that they are necessary, but they're not the ones who issued the shelter-in-pla…

Post by dmux » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:09 PM UTC

koheripbal wrote: post #12

EarthIsHome wrote: post #6

There's a reason tear gas is prohibited in warfare by the Geneva Protocol of 1925 right up there with the other chemical weapons. I got an extremely diluted dose of it while in my apartment with a window cracked, and I had to immediately close the window and leave to another room. I can't believe they're subjecting their own domestic population with chemical weapons.

Dose is everything. The Geneva Convention could not have regulated dosages of chemical weapons - that would not enforceable, nor practical. ...so instead they banned all chemical gases outright. This does not imply that tear gas is therefor more deadly than the government or the public is aware. The word "chemical" also doesn't mean "toxic". Water is a chemical, and when riot control measures use water cannons, shoul…

Post by war1025 » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

jolmg wrote: post #20

war1025 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that's a value judgement they can make. The issue is that ordering was different for millions of people and they didn't get a choice in the matter.

> issue is that ordering was different No, it's not. The ones that are protesting are also being ordered to disperse and go back home. The reason they're not is because they're disobeying. For those that aren't explicitly ordered, it's because it's pointless, given that civil disobedience is in the nature of protests.

Post by war1025 » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:12 PM UTC

aphextron wrote: post #18

koheripbal wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Police Brutality isn't a new problem. They should have waited until covid-19 was gone. Now we're likely to see a 2nd peak because of these protests.

>Police Brutality isn't a new problem. They should have waited until covid-19 was gone. This wouldn't be happening in a world with 4% unemployment. But 20 million Americans are now out of work, stuck at home, and pissed off. Not to mention without the usual distractions of sports or live entertainment. When the bread and circuses break down, this is the result.

Post by jolmg » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:13 PM UTC

agensaequivocum wrote: post #25

jolmg wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point is that addressing police brutality is more important than stopping COVID-19 spread which is more important than going to work and visiting families.

Except you're still killing grandma which is just as bad as police brutality.