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Tear Gas Is Way More Dangerous Than Police Let On - Especially During COVID

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Re: Tear Gas Is Way More Dangerous Than Police Let On - Especially During COVID

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> Especially During COVID

Public gatherings are supposedly extremely dangerous right now. The fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests we got the severity of Coronavirus wrong and people are using this as a convenient out for backing off shelter in place orders without losing face.

In February the "Philly had a parade, St Louis Stayed home" article was being shared by here and everywhere else.

From a people placement perspective, a parade and a protest are pretty equivalent.

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> Especially During COVID Public gatherings are supposedly extremely dangerous right now. The fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests we got the severity of Coronavirus wrong and people are using this as a convenient out for backing off shelter in place orders without losing face. In February the "Philly had a parade, St Louis Stayed home" article was being shared by here and everywhere else. Fr…

Or it's possible that in 2-3 weeks, we're going to see a spike in cases.

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> Especially During COVID Public gatherings are supposedly extremely dangerous right now. The fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests we got the severity of Coronavirus wrong and people are using this as a convenient out for backing off shelter in place orders without losing face. In February the "Philly had a parade, St Louis Stayed home" article was being shared by here and everywhere else. Fr…

Or maybe the fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests that police brutality is a horrible forever unaddressed injustice that doesn't care if there's a pandemic or not?

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> Especially During COVID Public gatherings are supposedly extremely dangerous right now. The fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests we got the severity of Coronavirus wrong and people are using this as a convenient out for backing off shelter in place orders without losing face. In February the "Philly had a parade, St Louis Stayed home" article was being shared by here and everywhere else. Fr…

Or maybe the fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests that police brutality is a horrible forever unaddressed injustice that doesn't care if there's a pandemic or not?

> doesn't care if there's a pandemic or not

There are many people that don't care if there is a pandemic of not. They were forcibly kept away from their jobs and families for three months.

Re: Tear Gas Is Way More Dangerous Than Police Let On - Especially During COVID

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There's a reason tear gas is prohibited in warfare by the Geneva Protocol of 1925 right up there with the other chemical weapons.

I got an extremely diluted dose of it while in my apartment with a window cracked, and I had to immediately close the window and leave to another room.

I can't believe they're subjecting their own domestic population with chemical weapons.

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Or maybe the fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests that police brutality is a horrible forever unaddressed injustice that doesn't care if there's a pandemic or not?

> doesn't care if there's a pandemic or not There are many people that don't care if there is a pandemic of not. They were forcibly kept away from their jobs and families for three months.

I think the point is that addressing police brutality is more important than stopping COVID-19 spread which is more important than going to work and visiting families.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> doesn't care if there's a pandemic or not There are many people that don't care if there is a pandemic of not. They were forcibly kept away from their jobs and families for three months.

I think the point is that addressing police brutality is more important than stopping COVID-19 spread which is more important than going to work and visiting families.

And that's a value judgement they can make. The issue is that ordering was different for millions of people and they didn't get a choice in the matter.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> doesn't care if there's a pandemic or not There are many people that don't care if there is a pandemic of not. They were forcibly kept away from their jobs and families for three months.

I think the point is that addressing police brutality is more important than stopping COVID-19 spread which is more important than going to work and visiting families.

You can’t protest if you’re sick though.

So I get it it’s a short term push to get recognition but if the pandemic is as bad as they say it means many people will be hospitalized or worse.

Of course it’s a devils bargain, damnned if you do, damnned if you don’t, but it’s still present.

Re: Tear Gas Is Way More Dangerous Than Police Let On - Especially During COVID

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe the fact that everyone is suddenly all for mass protests suggests that police brutality is a horrible forever unaddressed injustice that doesn't care if there's a pandemic or not?

> doesn't care if there's a pandemic or not There are many people that don't care if there is a pandemic of not. They were forcibly kept away from their jobs and families for three months.

I think that 'forcibly' is a bad choice of words for a legal order that people could, and some did, ignore without serious consequence, and definitely without response by force—witness the 'liberate' protests—when compared to the literal and illegal use of force that the current protests are addressing, which have themselves been met in many places with force (as, for example, this very article discusses).
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