iPhone owners can leave EU for 30 days before they lose third-party app stores

Post by paulryanrogers » Fri, Mar 08, 2024, 10:43 PM UTC

tmottabr wrote: post #160

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Very simple. Phones bought in the EU should adhere to their laws.

No because that would cause world wide people to buy EU phones just for the third-party stores even if they live in other countries. the law that apply to a phone is the law of the country you are at the moment. Third-party store are there because an EU law that only apply to EU territories. If you are out of the EU the law does not apply and Apple is not required to give you access to third-party stores.

Post by danlugo92 » Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 12:20 AM UTC

arzig wrote: post #156

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> EU jurisdiction ends at EU borders They still charge me EU prices outside though.

It’s malicious because they’ve done more work than necessary to put limitations on the user. They already know what region an account is in. If they just said “Ok, EU account, turn on the flags” that would be less engineering effort. Even if they increased verification of things like where you actually are relative your account at signup. But this is them engineering this solution to make sure the secret sauce doesn’…

Post by danlugo92 » Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 12:22 AM UTC

margana wrote: post #175

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No, you understand it correctly. People are just being dramatic because they’re not getting what they want. The DMA doesn’t even stipulate a 30 day provision, just a stipulation that it applies to people who live or are located in the EU. There’s a bit of wiggle room on how to read that (i.e., people who live in the EU, people who are located in the EU, people who live or are located in the EU) and Apple chose the mi…

It specifically says "end users established or located in the Union". It sounds to me like Apple did not fully understand the definition of "established" and took the classic route of "if I don't understand it, it doesn't apply to me" rather than ask any EU institution to elaborate. I hope this malicious approach will indeed be settled before the CJEU... with a hefty fine.

Post by danlugo92 » Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 12:25 AM UTC

tmottabr wrote: post #159

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Does one cease to be an EU resident or citizen if traveling abroad for more than 30 days?

no.. but EU laws only apply to EU territories. the second you step out of EU, EU laws stop applying to you and the laws from whatever country you are in the moment start applying.