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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by rwalle »

ohyes wrote: post #157
yamtaddle wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing's replacing the Smartphone unless it's got a camera in the same ballpark of quality and usability. Several use cases for a smartphone—including a couple major ones—don't really work with a watch, mostly for camera-related reasons. If it's not good as a camera, it's also not good as a scanner replacement, not good for remote check deposit, not good for things like the Measure app (or any other AR stuff), and s…

I don’t use any of those features and the smartphone has become garbage for web browsing so I’m not sure I need one at all.

I'm sorry your comment doesn't apply to 99% of the general population.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by tails4e »

markmark wrote: post #159
heresaPizza wrote: post #114

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Actually there are many ways to set parental controls on device and lock them with a passcode or you could use third party solution that use the Screen Time API but are compatible with Android.

It's so annoying that this isn't just a page on family.apple.com or whatever like Google does with familylink.google.com.

100% agree.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by mklepaczewski »

kbelder wrote: post #143
tartrate wrote: post #65

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Why would you buy your child an Android if you don't have one?

Because they'll break or lose them every six months, and you can replace them for $50.

These phones are sometimes (always?) preloaded with ton of shady apps. I definitely don't trust my kid to read EULA's and understand dangers of agreeing to random permission pop-ups. Even if I pre-screen all apps before giving the device to my kid, each system update may install new apps and children will definitely not wait for daddy to come from work to review them.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by kbelder »

mklepaczewski wrote: post #138
jtbayly wrote: post #41

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Or not let your child use an Apple device . That's actually your choice if it's your choice whether/which apps they can install.

There are many reasons why it's not that simple. My kid may be old enough to make the decision on which phone to buy, but not old enough to have unrestricted access to it. I may be divorced, and the device might have been given to them buy another parent. The device might have necessary features that are missing from other non-Apple device.

Yep. I have a general 'no Apple' rule in my house, but my stepdaughter came home with an iPhone from her dad. It wasn't done with evil intent, but it got her stuck in the Apple ecosystem, and it's disjoint from the rest of us.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by tempestn »

I recently ran into a similar thing with their streaming service, Apple TV Plus. Started a trial and wanted to add a profile for my wife. Browsed around the site for how to do that but couldn't find anything, so I googled and found apparently the only way to do it is to use the "family sharing" app on an Apple device. Apparently while you can subscribe and stream via the web, you can only add family profiles on an Apple device. For some reason.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by JohnBooty »

AlbertCory wrote: post #161

Details: I own a Mac & no other Apple devices. My TV is an LG. I have the Apple streaming service on the TV, purely because they have some pretty good shows (Ted Lasso, Separation, Acapulco). Is there something an Apple TV device would do for me? I'm not seeing it.

Apple TVs make convenient AirPlay streaming targets, not sure how AirPlay support is on smart TVs.

Seamless integration with Apple pay and your Apple account, if you have that.

You can use your iPhone (or iPad?) as an input device for the Apple TV. Very handy for typing in passwords or whatever. Would not apply to you obviously. Can also pair a BT keyboard with the AppleTV for the same purposes, FWIW.

IIRC Apple TVs don't collect the insane amounts of information that smart TVs collect.

Apple TVs might have better interfaces as well, though that's obviously subjective. All the smart TV interfaces I've used have been pretty trash. But maybe they're better now, I dunno.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by munk-a »

jkaplowitz wrote: post #162
V__ wrote: post #111

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I gifted an Apple Watch this Christmas. I checked their site and saw that an iPhone was needed, but somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. Since you can set up the watch for a family member (who doesn't have an iPhone) it has to work, right? Got the newest iPad? F*k you, buy and iPhone. That was a disappointing gift, I can tell you that. There is absolutely no reason to impose such a limit. I don't und…

I don't like this mandatory tie between the two Apple product lines any more than you do, but as an FYI nit on terminology: > somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. [...] Got the newest iPad? iOS 12 was the last version of iOS where that name applied to iPad as well as iPhone. Starting with version 13, the version of the operating system for iPhone had been the only one called iOS, with the iPad OS cal…

This feels like an Apple problem - their iOS variants being unified is a reasonable expectation from consumers and, additionally, the fact that they EoL devices so aggressively means that unless you're a cutting edge Apple follower a lot of their tech simply doesn't work together.

If Apple wants to sit there and say "Welp, buy the latest iPhone" they're free to do that - but the fact that there is user confusion is completely on them for making their products so inter-incompatible.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by jeroenhd »

srott2 wrote: post #39

Similar to the Chromecast, I was trying to set one up. https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/2998456 "Download the Google Home app on your Chromecast-supported Android device."

Yup, you need either an Android or iOS device. If you just have a PC or a laptop you just can't use a Chromecast for some stupid reason.

At least it's better than Apple TV, which requires you to own a device from the exact same brand, but it's still a shitty requirement. They managed to implement setup from a PC before, what's stopping them from doing it again?

I suppose you could use any of the many Android emulators out there to get around this restriction but it shouldn't be necessary. This is just user hostile design.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by karamanolev »

symlinkk wrote: post #176
jkaplowitz wrote: post #162

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I don't like this mandatory tie between the two Apple product lines any more than you do, but as an FYI nit on terminology: > somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. [...] Got the newest iPad? iOS 12 was the last version of iOS where that name applied to iPad as well as iPhone. Starting with version 13, the version of the operating system for iPhone had been the only one called iOS, with the iPad OS cal…

Lmao how is this nuance related to the point he made at all?

There's not much nuance to "iPad doesn't run on iOS, it runs on iPadOS". You need an iOS device to setup an iWatch. The nuance only applies to how that came to be, historically and strategically.

The above doesn't constitute support for Apple's policies.

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