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Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by tarl0s »

aortega wrote: post #169
axiom92 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." ChatGPT: GPS stands for Global Positioning System. It is a way that we can figure out where we are in the world using special satellites. Imagine you are standing outside and you see lots of stars in the sky. Well, GPS works kind of like that, but instead of stars, there are satellites orbiting the Earth. These satellites are way…

>Not bad! Its terrible. This is totally not how GPS works, I.E. the terminal never sends a message to the satellite. This is the danger of early LLMs, a large amount of their output is false and there is no way to tell unless you are already an expert. This makes them basically useless except for a toy.

Asking it to “explain how GPS works like I’m a seasoned engineer” yields a more detailed explanation and there’s no mention of GPS terminals sending messages back to the satellites.

Probably the “false output” you mentioned is due to the fact that the prompt asked to “explain it like I’m five”, which made ChatGPT answer with a “dialogue between terminal and satellite” explanation, which (arguably) may be better understood by a 5 years old.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by mrtksn »

mfDjB wrote: post #171

For me, Google Search just doesn't seem to be getting better over the years, if anything its getting worse. I honestly feel like its hard to get what I want half the time with all the SEO spam, most of the time I have to input "inurl:reddit.com" just to get good results. At the same time, ChatGPT has frequently impressed me, not with everything (my expectations are reasonably low) but it has performed amazing work fo…

> Personally, I wouldn't go long on search engines that don't have a strong ML component to them in the future.

Arguably, it's the ML that made Google useless for some people. Since some time, Google seems to be curating it's results to address searches in a question format. In the past we were searching for occurrences of our keywords in webpages but today Google seems to be trying to be an answer machine. Unfortunately it's not very good at it and it is just as inaccurate as ChatGPT.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by stackbutterflow »

uconnectlol wrote: post #152
ipython wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you looking for the movie The Blues Brothers? (Not ChatGPT, I promise)

EDIT: Nah that's not it. It's way too old. And in mine the police crash for no reason before they even get anywhere near the scene of the crime. I will skim thru it, but it doesn't look like the right setting. The movie was some generic action movie for some reason I remember Denzel Washington being in it but I looked through his movies from 2006-2012 and didn't find it. It was around that time. Setting had to be som…

Unbreakable with Bruce Willis?

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by drakmo »

Google is just a lightning fast but messed up index combined with really good graphs. ChatGPT now is only one tool Soon it will be just one piece in a box filled with a combination of tools that let you just know whatever you want to in a depth of detail you specify it to be laid out:

- large conversational language model that generates the piece of information

- fact checking model that applies post checks on logic and consistency

- recitational graph model that backs the propositions with sources and ratings

- geospatial and locational model that adds references in space

- recognitions development model that can classify how realizations and knowldege develop over time

- social trend model that can adjust to conversations of the society as a whole

All this in combination will bring any knowledge in any level of detail with a defined level of certainty.

Do you want to know more?

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by Duplo »

mfDjB wrote: post #171

For me, Google Search just doesn't seem to be getting better over the years, if anything its getting worse. I honestly feel like its hard to get what I want half the time with all the SEO spam, most of the time I have to input "inurl:reddit.com" just to get good results. At the same time, ChatGPT has frequently impressed me, not with everything (my expectations are reasonably low) but it has performed amazing work fo…

> "inurl:reddit.com"

site:reddit.com would be slightly better :)

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by jonbaer »

For any chatbot I will ask only 2 questions, one is about myself (since I placed an easter egg in software AOL took and used back in the day) and what time is it? ChatGPT thankfully may or may not be connected to the internet @ prompt but that is usually a good giveaway. IMO Google blew it when they took away Google via SMS, this is the hole ChatGPT(x) can fill.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

mach1ne wrote: post #20
cs702 wrote: post #6

...But ChatGPT's successors just might . I, for one, look forward to a future in which I can ask a digital assistant to find and summarize information on anything: "Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." "Computer, what are the latest Covid-19 infection stats in my city?" "Computer, who is Claude Shannon and why is he important?" "Computer, what are the top three storie…

>"Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." ”I’m sorry, I cannot answer that query because it has ableist connotations. I am a large language model by OpenAI.”

I guess being young is a disability.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by pixl97 »

mrtksn wrote: post #192
mfDjB wrote: post #171

For me, Google Search just doesn't seem to be getting better over the years, if anything its getting worse. I honestly feel like its hard to get what I want half the time with all the SEO spam, most of the time I have to input "inurl:reddit.com" just to get good results. At the same time, ChatGPT has frequently impressed me, not with everything (my expectations are reasonably low) but it has performed amazing work fo…

> Personally, I wouldn't go long on search engines that don't have a strong ML component to them in the future. Arguably, it's the ML that made Google useless for some people. Since some time, Google seems to be curating it's results to address searches in a question format. In the past we were searching for occurrences of our keywords in webpages but today Google seems to be trying to be an answer machine. Unfortuna…

>In the past we were searching for occurrences of our keywords in webpages

I mean that died decades ago when spammers just made pages with your word repeated over and over again. Spam makes everything worse.

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