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ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by cs702 »

IanCal wrote: post #18
cs702 wrote: post #6

...But ChatGPT's successors just might . I, for one, look forward to a future in which I can ask a digital assistant to find and summarize information on anything: "Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." "Computer, what are the latest Covid-19 infection stats in my city?" "Computer, who is Claude Shannon and why is he important?" "Computer, what are the top three storie…

I'll be the first to say that chatgpt already does very well at the first and third examples. WebGPT sounds like the right approach for the others (understanding how to formulate a search query, then searching, then summarising the results) Edit I think the direction of these models seems clear, and their capabilities however limited at the moment are outstanding. I think the best measure of performance is what the n…

I agree (with minor caveats).

The important thing is that these AI systems are only going to get better over time.

IMHO, the early 2020's for conversational AI is akin to the 1980's for personal computers.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by emrah »

Google already provides a chatgpt-like experience with the questions it displays based on the query. It is unlike chatgpt in that google comes up with those questions but they are usually spot on and you can see the source where the answers are coming from. Perhaps all google has to do is provide a chatgpt like interface to that subsection of search results so it feels more interactive like chatgpt

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by throwaway71271 »

Have they not heard of it? The web is dead and as the poet said, giants will roam the earth once more.

Every time I interact with davinci-003 it makes me feel more and more like the first real paradigm change is coming. We are still using our computers and writing our programs in the same way as 70 years ago, I emplore you to read 'structured programming' debates and see how we argue about the same things now. Every business product basically still competes with a word processor and spreadsheet. We have made hundreds of thousands of lines of code so we can auto focus the next field on a form, and it still doesnt work on 99% of the cases. The GUI was not a paradigm change, it was more of the same, maybe even worse, mobile overpromised, anything besides video is just worse desktop.

Lists and tables.. for 70 years

This is the first real change.

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"And what doeth the saint in the forest?" asked Zarathustra.

The saint answered: "I make hymns and sing them; and in making hymns I laugh and weep and mumble: thus do I praise God.

With singing, weeping, laughing, and mumbling do I praise the God who is my God. But what dost thou bring us as a gift?"

When Zarathustra had heard these words, he bowed to the saint and said: "What should I have to give thee! Let me rather hurry hence lest I take aught away from thee!"--And thus they parted from one another, the old man and Zarathustra, laughing like schoolboys.

When Zarathustra was alone, however, he said to his heart: "Could it be possible! This old saint in the forest hath not yet heard of it, that god is dead!"

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by axiom92 »

cs702 wrote: post #6

...But ChatGPT's successors just might . I, for one, look forward to a future in which I can ask a digital assistant to find and summarize information on anything: "Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." "Computer, what are the latest Covid-19 infection stats in my city?" "Computer, who is Claude Shannon and why is he important?" "Computer, what are the top three storie…

"Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old."

ChatGPT:

GPS stands for Global Positioning System. It is a way that we can figure out where we are in the world using special satellites.

Imagine you are standing outside and you see lots of stars in the sky. Well, GPS works kind of like that, but instead of stars, there are satellites orbiting the Earth. These satellites are way up high, so they can see everything on the ground.

When you have a GPS device, like a phone or a car, it can talk to these satellites and ask, "Where am I?" The satellites send back a message that says, "You are here!" and gives your device a special code.

The GPS device can use this code to figure out exactly where you are on a map. It's kind of like a magic trick! You can use GPS to find out where you are, or to find your way to a new place. It's super helpful when you're lost or want to go on an adventure.

Not bad!

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by [deleted] »

sitkack wrote: post #12
berkle4455 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outdated? How so? The primary thing Algolia is guilty of is being massively overpriced to the point it’s a non-starter for any platform with even moderate usage. But their full-text search functions quite well and is very fast.

Vector search over any corpus that fits in memory is quite fast. Hell, a naive inverted index performs quite well for 90% of tasks.

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Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by Sozar2000 »

I think this was framed around using google to answer a question vs using Chatgpt.

For example. Asking "How can I tie my shoes?" to google requires that I click on a link (or multiple) and hope for the best. Meanwhile Chatgpt is likely to give me a detailed walkthrough and answer any follow up questions.

Another good example someone mentioned was "How did ww2 start?". Google gives you a path to find the answer, but Chatgpt will outright give you an answer.

I'd say Chatgpt's competition is really google assistant and siri vs google search. Personally, if I'm using "Okay Google", I don't want to be referred to links as that requires me having to pickup my phone.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by cs702 »

axiom92 wrote: post #25
cs702 wrote: post #6

...But ChatGPT's successors just might . I, for one, look forward to a future in which I can ask a digital assistant to find and summarize information on anything: "Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." "Computer, what are the latest Covid-19 infection stats in my city?" "Computer, who is Claude Shannon and why is he important?" "Computer, what are the top three storie…

"Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." ChatGPT: GPS stands for Global Positioning System. It is a way that we can figure out where we are in the world using special satellites. Imagine you are standing outside and you see lots of stars in the sky. Well, GPS works kind of like that, but instead of stars, there are satellites orbiting the Earth. These satellites are way…

And it's only going to get better over time.

As I mentioned elsewhere, conversational AIs in the early 2020's are like PCs in the 1980's -- a new technology that still has lots of early limitations.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by emsixteen »

cs702 wrote: post #6

...But ChatGPT's successors just might . I, for one, look forward to a future in which I can ask a digital assistant to find and summarize information on anything: "Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." "Computer, what are the latest Covid-19 infection stats in my city?" "Computer, who is Claude Shannon and why is he important?" "Computer, what are the top three storie…

Like Ask Jeeves on steroids.
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