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Post by three_seagrass »

twofornone wrote: post #161
three_seagrass wrote: post #143

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Good thing then being inclusive involves all races and genders then, including the dominant one. It would be pretty terrible if a historically "dominant" demographic felt persecuted because of equal options with emoji colors.

This common argument is disingenuous. You hide behind the term "inclusive" as though everyone is treated equally but simultaneously believe that >Excluding skin color and gender is being blind to prejudice, not fighting it. Which implies that historic and current prejudice must be corrected with more prejudice. Which is inconsistent with inclusiveness and equality. And we've all seen how this works in practice - cert…

Equality feels like persecution to those hold all the privileges.

I'm not sure why having different colored emojis has triggered an essay to redefine inclusivity as persecution for some hypothetical "dominant" demographic, but you are proving my point.

By using weak words to avoiding naming the demographic you feel is actually persecuted here, you're turning a blind eye to centuries of prejudicial conflict and injustice - context that defeats your attempt at semantics.

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Post by its_ethan »

jl6 wrote: post #145
izzydata wrote: post #46

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I think Apple, Samsung and Google should give up on this whole iPhone 13 and Pixel 6 naming and numbering scheme and stop pretending like it is going to be an exciting brand new product every single year. They should name them more like cars where you can always expect there to be the latest revision each year, but you never expect it to be something completely new that you need to upgrade to. We need the iPhone (202…

Is there a whole lot of difference between “iPhone 15” and “iPhone (2023)”? Aside from the fact that relegating the version number to parentheses makes it more likely to be omitted and thus more likely to cause confusion for users trying to troubleshoot. I like the version number being explicit and visible. You know what you’re getting. Pretending versions don’t exist just reminds me of OEMs swapping out components b…

For what it's worth, swapping out material/ updating parts and not changing model numbers already happens a lot in consumer tech. Making changes after launch and initial mass production runs in order to average down cost or fix known issues is a fairly common practice at large hardware companies (Apple/Google/Samsung/Tesla). It's seldom changing the display or battery size or anything immediately customer facing, but there's hundreds of components that each act as a knob for performance and cost that get tweaked over time.

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Post by webmaven »

wildrhythms wrote: post #177
webmaven wrote: post #101

This is getting into the weeds, but I'm keeping an eye out for information on whether the 6a will have a subscription option like the 5a (24 payments of $15 = $360 for a $450 phone). Of course, my 5a will only be paid off in another 19 months, at which point a hypothetical Pixel 7a will presumably be available for upgrading, hopefully also with a similar subscription plan, but meanwhile whether the 6a even has a subs…

I opted for the 5a because it has a slightly larger battery than the 6, and a headphone jack :)

I totally get the appeal of having the jack, but when push comes to shove, I'll accept the tradeoff and get a USB-C headphone adapter.

One less hole for water to enter is also a good thing (speaking as someone who has managed to drop phones into puddles, toilets, pools, and pots of soup).

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Post by samhw »

nostrademons wrote: post #187
samhw wrote: post #174

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Nah, watch the video, he's Hispanic. (Of course racial classifications have no real meaning, but ime Hispanic people are generally - bar some Spaniards - 'typed' as non-white, comparable to Asians or Native Americans. And certainly a minority in US terms.) ETA: He's also deaf, fwiw, with regard to the minority point. ETA2: Hmm, I may be wrong about the exact details. It looks like he's a research scientist at Google,…

Pretty sure he's Ukrainian ("kanevsky" = "of Kaniv" [city in Ukraine]). Last I checked Ukrainians were considered white.

Hmm, I think we're coming up against the weirdness of racial categories here. I'd say Ukrainians - to much the same extent as Hispanics - aren't quite considered white in American terms (which has virtually zero to do with one's skin color). Or not Caucasian, at least. (Yes, despite the fact that they come literally from the Caucasus, while Americans don't.) But it's impossible to come to an exact agreement on these things.

That interesting diversion notwithstanding, I think his being deaf is probably what accounts for his inclusion, which is consistent with the spirit of what that person was saying.

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Post by adamrezich »

three_seagrass wrote: post #189
SemanticStrengh wrote: post #157

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in racists terms, yellow has always denoted asian people (which is weird btw), simpsons are a coincidence

It doesn't matter if the decision was intentional or coincidence, the fact remains the most popular TV cartoon in history has trained our expectations.

race-neutral smiley faces and LEGO minifigs predate The Simpsons—you're just taking your personal experience and projecting it onto everyone else.

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Post by bobsmooth »

dbbk wrote: post #185
bobsmooth wrote: post #166

New languages added to Google translate. It honestly has to be one of the most amazing inventions of the last 10 years if not the last 100 years.

Is the quality reliable though? I only ever remember Google Translate as spitting out half-correct translations.

I've translated news articles from many languages and have been able to discern the general meaning. When's the last time you used it?

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Post by drusepth »

dnissley wrote: post #162
drusepth wrote: post #89

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Any recommendations? I've been holding off on upgrading my shattered-screen 3a for almost 6 months assuming I'd get the 6a when it released, so pretty much anything would be an upgrade at this point. I'm really just looking for a good camera, a headphone jack, and a good battery.

usb-c headphone jack dongle + cable tether to attach it to your headphones

I'm not really a fan of keeping the dongle attached to my headphones since all of my other devices have actual jacks. This probably works well if none of your devices have jacks (and they all have usb-c), though.

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Post by lynndotpy »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #52
valbaca wrote: post #19

Multiple mentions of "skin tone" and AI. Did they really mess up skin tone recognition that bad that they needed three different solutions to it? (I feel like I missed some major fuckup on their end) https://blog.google/products/assistant/assistant-io-2022/ https://blog.google/products/search/monk-skin-tone-scale/ https://blog.google/technology/research/ai-monk-scale-skin-t...

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There is one in the second link of the comment you're replying to, with long orange hair.

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Post by clolege »

drusepth wrote: post #89
rpmisms wrote: post #50

Pixel 6a dropped the headphone jack. Great. Gotta find another brand now.

Any recommendations? I've been holding off on upgrading my shattered-screen 3a for almost 6 months assuming I'd get the 6a when it released, so pretty much anything would be an upgrade at this point. I'm really just looking for a good camera, a headphone jack, and a good battery.

Another option to consider might be supplementing the best single-port phone you can find with a Dongle Dangler [0], which allows you to keep a dongle on your keychain.

I use it with an iPhone 12 Mini (which has good enough camera/battery for me) and it solves the wired headphone problem, albeit with adding some extra steps. I would prefer to support manufacturers that are keeping the jack, but at a certain point I felt like I was sacrificing quite a bit in terms of other aspects of my smartphone experience to do so.

[0] https://www.dongledangler.com/dangler

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Post by umeshunni »

samhw wrote: post #186
burkaman wrote: post #105

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I guess this is intentional exaggeration to make some kind of point, but I just checked a bunch of Google corporate pages and every single one with pictures of people had a white guy somewhere. The majority were not white men, but that's because most people are not white men.

Google's workforce is 53.1% white, and 36.3% Asian (so, not far). 2.5% is black. Their marketing graphics - to put it charitably - bely those demographics. src=" https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/diversity.google/... " />

Those demographics are US-only.
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