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“One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

#191

Good lord, I am hyperventilating just reading this. The people that went in and saved these boys are amazing. I am glad the author took the time to pull this together to share the story of the divers as well. Absolutely amazing - mind-boggling amazing - what dedicated, skilled, selfless people can do.

My response was the same. Those divers are very high quality humans.

I feel good people like that walk among us.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

#192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't excuse Elon slandering Vernon Unsworth, but didn't Vernon talk shit about Elon's good faith attempt at making a submarine to try to rescue the people?

So what? You can call each other names and fight. Musk has gone beyond that and accused Vernon of being a pedophile and marrying child bride. Maybe it was the heat of the moment. But then some days (or weeks) later he followed up with "I'd bet my signed dollar (that Vernon is a pedo)" (or something like that). Musk intended to destroy Vernon with the pedophile accusation. There is no doubt of that. This is pre-medita…

Oh, so what? It's totally normal to make up baseless accusations, abuse accuse some guy of some specified sexual crime and try to destroy their life and reputation. This is normal, and good. The shining example of one of the greatest things our beautiful culture has given us. The ability to sidestep our ageing legal system and hang men who deserve it anyway for stuff we choose to accuse them of. Thank you to 3rd wave feminism and metoo for normalizing this long overdue vigilantism against the evil patriarchy that's been the only thing blocking and destroying women from their potential forever. So what if some "Innocents" get caught up in the cross fire? Who cares if Musk wields the same axe? The more important thing is that we have a chance to do it to them for once. We have to destroy male confidence and get them running scared, that's the only power we have over that pernicious make privilege and false sexual entitlement to women's bodies. We need to use this scalpel to remake evil traditional male sexuality to not be toxic to modern women, that's the only thing that matters, whatever the cost. How is that not obvious?

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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post #154

This is such an awe inspiring story, and at the same time it made me sad. It reminded me of the story of a young Rwandan girl who was about the same age as those trapped boys when she and her family escaped to the Congolese jungle … I can’t remember her name but she ultimately survived and has become a public activist. She tells her story now frequently and I remember her saying that she though the entire world must…

Intriguing take.

Priorities. Our world could be very different given a reconsideration of what is worth what.

And some of us live more in that world, lucky to have agency, fellowship, resources to make it work.

Humanity is partitioned. Not all sets makes sense.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

#195
post #154

This is such an awe inspiring story, and at the same time it made me sad. It reminded me of the story of a young Rwandan girl who was about the same age as those trapped boys when she and her family escaped to the Congolese jungle … I can’t remember her name but she ultimately survived and has become a public activist. She tells her story now frequently and I remember her saying that she though the entire world must…

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Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

#196
post #113

Is there a film being made of this yet?

No idea why you got downvoted so much, but yes it’s out, it’s called The Cave

Didn’t downvote, but I also share the weird malaise when every remarkable event is expected to become a movie.

In this case a the diver (co-?)wrote a book, so a movie is just another step in that direction and he seems cool with it. It would be shitty though to have a movie in any other circumstance.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

#197
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah if every harmful thing constituted the "true character" of someone, we'd all be sinners. Granted, if a lot of harm is done, then it might be fair. (Cue the knee-jerk "isn't dragging a hero's name through the mud a lot of harm?"; I don't know, can you tell me what wouldn't qualify as a "lot of harm" under your worldview? Everyone knows the diver was a hero and if you have evidence his life is affected, pls share)…

I have a friend of a friend who worked directly under Musk at one of his big ventures. Can confirm that Musk is a giant egotistical asshole, albeit a brilliant one.

b./SpaceX?

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

#198

Good lord, I am hyperventilating just reading this. The people that went in and saved these boys are amazing. I am glad the author took the time to pull this together to share the story of the divers as well. Absolutely amazing - mind-boggling amazing - what dedicated, skilled, selfless people can do.

Excellent charts and animations at the SCMP.

https://multimedia.scmp.com/news/world/article/2154457/thai-...

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

#199
post #47

I still don't get it. The tunnels were too narrow near the ceilling, but wide near the floor. The divers could not keep at the floor because they could not navigate due to zero visibility, zero communication and no tether points. Would not a sonar help? A full spacesuit-like helmet with air to be able to talk via radio? Laying down some flexible tunnels that could be inflated with air or maybe just pumped with clear…

I think it was also filled with mud , or is it what you cover with the “no tether points” part ?

My take away from the article is that there could have been many more solutions, some more clever, some involving more gear etc., but they were completely short of time and verified information to come up with other viable plans.

Basically any other plan would have needed more checks, preparation, waiting for the gear to be ready, rehearsal, etc. And as said in the beginning of the interview, they feared the kids would be dead any day. As I get it, that’s also why civilians where chosen instead of the pro rescue team, because they were the only one with appropriate gear and experience at that moment in that place.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

#200
It’s such an incredible, but also well balanced, very down to earth story.

The rescuer is so diligent in putting things into perspective, especially regarding the future repercussions on cave diving or why they had to do it.

Personally I was only remembering Elon Musk’s jerkiness from the whole story, and am so glad to be reminded there are so many more positive takeaways, incredibly brave and supportive people working together and putting in all they have to make it work despite the odds.

Also RIP the diver who lost his life a few days before while preparing for the rescue.

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