Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…
The Lounge[1] is an open source IRCCloud alternative for users who are comfortable with self-hosting and want an always on, web GUI, access from anywhere, works on mobile, IRC client.
Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…
Literally just signed up on element.io last night. Still using IRCCloud cuz it owns :)
Damn. I can't see how this ends well for Slack users in the long term. > Combining Slack with Salesforce Customer 360 will be transformative for customers and the industry. The combination will create the operating system for the new way to work, uniquely enabling companies to grow and succeed in the all-digital world. Oh. Oh no.
> The combination will create the operating system for the new way to work, uniquely enabling companies to grow and succeed in the all-digital world. I'm just complaining, but... Why do people write things like this? I see it in my own employer and our marketing material, too. It's confusing bullshit that is devoid of any meaning.
It's not really devoid of meaning if you understand the space. Roughly, Salesforce is about processes and Slack is about communication. Think about handling something like responding to a RFP. Salesforce is good at breaking that down into several pieces of work and assigning them to different people, but the communication and UI sucks. Slack makes communicating across a team easy but lacks the tools to build in formal processes. Combining those will, at least theoretically, end up as a better product.
Google chat, lol. Which one? Google Wave? Google Buzz? Google Talk? Google Hangouts? Google Allo? Google Duo? Google Meet? Google chat that came with Google Apps? Or G Suite? Or Google Workspace?
The one that is built into every GSuite/Workspace account. For free. Google Chat.
Wait seriously? I had no idea that existed. I thought gchat was killed when they removed it from gmail.
Teams seems to be doing surprisingly well. Considering how many businesses have it "included" with their Office subscriptions, it just has to be good enough to avoid someone wanting to pay extra for an outside service. If Lync was half as good as Teams is now, companies like Slack never would've gotten off the ground.
We still use Lync aka communicator aka skype. the killer feature is screenshare and exchange integration. its actually really hard to get some team members to join us on mattermost because they don’t see the point. :/ Looking forward to teams replacing mattermost and business skype going away.
I always found Skype for Business/Lync got confused if you had the software installed but weren't part of the business' domain. My experiences with SfB were: 1. I'm an outside contributor to a company using my personal machine. And 2. My organization but whilst using another organization's hardware. In both cases, joining Skype for Business meetings was downright nightmarish.
I can't possibly see this going well for salesforce. Buying slack for 70x revenue is insane. Their entire market is going to be eaten by teams and google chat, if it hasn't already. Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software because everyone is already using office. And those that aren't are on g-suite. Slack's recent guidance was horrible too.
Slack's main differentiator up until now was that it wasn't tied up in a tech giant. That meant it had great compatibility with everything, and that it was, as a product, the primary focus of its company (and not just an accessory). I think it could have survived on that alone, but this acquisition throws that entire story in the garbage. Now it'll just be "Teams but worse".
I haven't read the details but an earlier message said "70x revenue". It is hard to think of a reason not to sell at that multiple.
Well, Slack, it was nice knowing you. I wonder who Discord will get bought up by when it replaces Slack after a year or two of Salesforce mismanagement? It's so sad that this is the cycle for software now. Start small, get big fast, get sold, get ruined. I realize I am presupposing Salesforce will ruin Slack - but it's hard to see how they won't , unless they take the approach Microsoft took with Github and keep it a…
> It's so sad that this is the cycle for software now ...now?
Earlier you could just stick with the version you had on your CD or floppy and not care what the C-suits was up to on the company that made the software you used. So I guess it wasn't as obvious back then?
Discord's problem isn't it's name. Discord's entire interface is based around gaming. It shows your running game in the UI, it integrates with Steam, etc. It's loading messages are all based on gaming culture. It just doesn't present itself as something you'd consider for your business.
The loading messages were replaced with generic non-playful ones relatively recently, FYI.
Good to know. I have some Discord groups and contacts, but I don't spend a lot of time in it. I actually find the playful messages somewhat endearing, but I feel like they'd be better off launching an entirely separate client if they want to appeal to businesses.