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Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by ernst_klim »

tortasaur wrote: post #4
exceptione wrote: post #2

"The initial devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027. The initial devices will be flagships so they'll be higher end hardware than Pixels at a higher price. Lower end devices will take more time to meet our requirements since the updates and security features aren't as good. It's mostly due to how Qualcomm handles it. The latest Snapdragon flagships have the best security features. We'll also need…

I don't doubt they will cost more than the Pixel line, but I'm somewhat skeptical that the hardware will be higher quality. Perhaps my idea of what Motorola is capable of is outdated.

Pixel itself is very mediocre hardware, it's not hard to surpass. The battery is my main problem with it, my current pixel can't barely survive half a day of usage.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by dotancohen »

TFNA wrote: post #162
tfrancisl wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's stopping me from using a browser to log in to my bank? Assuming my bank is one of the ones that requires you to lock down sideloading (they aren't, but i know many are).

In many countries, all major local banks require their phone app as the second factor to log in to the browser version of their online banking. Sometimes functionality is removed from the browser version and made available only in the phone app.

And what do people without a smartphone use?

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by smallmancontrov »

exceptione wrote: post #117
felooboolooomba wrote: post #55

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There is a little bit of clumsiness in the way Google communicates with the public. What they really mean to say is: we need to be broken up.

I am in awe at the amount of capital Google's market dominance affords them and the consistency with which they squander that capital.

https://killedbygoogle.com/

This is not the way.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by dotancohen »

saidinesh5 wrote: post #57
tfrancisl wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's stopping me from using a browser to log in to my bank? Assuming my bank is one of the ones that requires you to lock down sideloading (they aren't, but i know many are).

The bank website typically needs the app to enable two factor authentication in a lot of places. For eg. There's no browser based alternative to make UPI payments that i know of.

How about for clients with no smartphones?

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by therealmarv »

I just wonder how they handle full Google's certification for hardware integrity + Google Play Store with GrapheneOS. They contradict on this part on the normal GrapheneOS mod and I don't see a way how they will not on Motorola phones.

Banking apps (e.g. Revolut) block GrapheneOS actively and many other apps too.

But it will be interesting times once they are out!

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by Noaidi »

This is good news but not so much good news for us poors. I was waiting four this announcement in hopes of getting away from google totally but with the 2026 Moto Signature going for $1000 I am sure the 2027 will be more so I will probably get Pixel 10 instead.

Maybe this will lighten the price on the Pixel 10's though...

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by drnick1 »

Cider9986 wrote: post #33
tfrancisl wrote: post #25

I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

AOSP has way better security and therefore privacy than desktop linux.

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Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

DANmode wrote: post #163
TFNA wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In many countries, all major local banks require their phone app as the second factor to log in to the browser version of their online banking. Sometimes functionality is removed from the browser version and made available only in the phone app.

Name five.

BAC in Central Americal https://www.baccredomatic.com

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by Noaidi »

Arrowmaster wrote: post #148
Cider9986 wrote: post #29

Specific devices: >At the time of writing, within ~12 months, in 2027, the 2027 Signature, Razr fold, and Razr flip will meet the hardware security requirements and should have official GrapheneOS support. Motorola is currently porting GrapheneOS to their devices. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49038982

The 2026 Signature doesn't appear to be for sale in the US. Does this mean we have to wait for the lower end devices if we don't want a fold/flip?

Wow, I do not think any of these phones are available in the U.S.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by FartyMcFarter »

felooboolooomba wrote: post #55

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> Google, this small tech company (correct me if I'm wrong), is peddling source code via tarballs on google drive.

What is the context for this? It's not clear from the linked social media post.

The Android kernel source code is in git: https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/common/

Plus there's a lot of other Android source hosted on Google's git servers: https://android.googlesource.com/

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