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Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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I think it's a stretch to call OP doing a "witch-hunt" here. That Android guy is a mini LinkedIn celebrity with 100k followers.

This doesn't excuse a message that literally reads like call to action.

Public companies and their executives deserve the same treatment as the government and the politicians. It is completely fine to let them know that the people are upset with their decisions.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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post #70

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Apparently I live in 2005 then? I do 2FA with the same chip+pin method that I use to pay in the store. Works in any browser

Maybe that is possible in Germany. It is impossible here in Sweden. Or in other words: of course you can have mobile bankid without a smartphone, just use a tablet computer ;)

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Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene. * before replying snarkily that Android is Linux, please take a long walk off a short pier, thanks

Some (European) banks/healthcare apps block GOS and require stock android. Just saying

I wonder if practices will change any of there's ever a device that ships with GOS. Right now, many companies are happy to shrug off GOS, because they don't support "modified devices".

If any of the Motorola devices have GOS as a pre-installed option, now the companies don't have the excuse that the device is modified.

I'm guessing the companies will continue to be difficult, but it'll be amusing to watch, at least.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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anything but holding people accountable for their anti-consumer actions

It's quite painful to resolve cognitive dissonance, so I understand the downvotes for your comment.

People are clever enough to reach high level corporate roles, but at the same time they're are too weak to emotionally process the consequences of their "work" on their human cash cows of below-average intelligence.

However with these kind of moral/ethical questions, it's really hard to draw the line.

Is working at Google and thereby facilitating the scamming of my grandmother worse than being an ordinary pickpocket or an lobbyist for big oil?

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

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Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

#116

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I think it's a stretch to call OP doing a "witch-hunt" here. That Android guy is a mini LinkedIn celebrity with 100k followers.

This doesn't excuse a message that literally reads like call to action.

I'm just thinking that someone who has 100k LinkedIn followers might be happy about any type of engagement, including nerdy rage bait.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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post #36

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All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene. * before replying snarkily that Android is Linux, please take a long walk off a short pier, thanks

> All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. We have waydroid for that. > You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene. Unless of course it uses those stupid integrity apis to block anything that isn't stock.

Graphene passes basic integrity, so most of them work. There is a list here:

https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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anything but holding people accountable for their anti-consumer actions

Well, sounds like you have a rather weird definition of accountability. You do you.

He's the head of Android ecosystem; who else is accountable?

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene. * before replying snarkily that Android is Linux, please take a long walk off a short pier, thanks

Even Graphine is limited in what apps work properly compared to a normal google phone. You have to give up a lot in order to have privacy these days.

A pure linux non-android phone would be great however you wouldn't have access to properly working apps and would not be able to participate in modern society.

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