Sounds like JD Vance was right. Huh. This with respect is the EU's monster to worry about.
Chat Control Must Be Stopped
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#182Some thoughts if you have them, are illegal to express, even in private, for your own consumption. This is the law that means none of our devices or possessions are protected from snooping. You have a tough challenge to convince me it’s anything other than a mundane device to give some groups an information advantage over others in their own society, for the unfair pursuit of political and economic advantage.
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#183> Chat Control would make it mandatory for all service providers (text messaging, email, social media, cloud storage, hosting services, etc.) to scan all communications and all files (including end-to-end encrypted ones), in order to supposedly detect whatever the government deems "abusive material." I wonder why there has been such silence on this, with the exception of a handful of well written blog posts. The scop…
Among many other reasons: because the proponents are using the usual "think of the children" tactics to impugn and libel the opposition.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
WW2 was the immense shock that gave us that golden age of the 1960s-1990s. But WW2 is now a distant memory for most.
It's eerie how immediate the regression is right around when the last eyewitnesses are dying. Did their children not listen to their parents at all?
No fellow citizen- as long as it's in the name of Liberal Democracy and the Open Society™, the means in question are rather ephemeral.
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#185Regarding all the chat control posts, I've not seen any comments regarding the potential use for homomorphic encryption to abide by this law: if chat control is only used for the detection of CSAM (which is another issue in itself; Apple, for instance, already solved this with NeuraHash), then could "allowing the government to snoop" be letting them have the homomorphically encrypted ciphertext? Disclaimer that I act…
It would be useless because predators won't run the homomorphic encryption.
>Apple, for instance, already solved this with NeuraHash
"Solved"
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#186Would chat control also force open source software to put in backdoors? Like if users run their own little servers somewhere, and those load websites, or they sideload apps to the app store (thanks to EU hehe).
I'd personally like to have a FOSS, privacy-aware CSAM (or even generic gore/porn) detector I could plug into Matrix/Lemmy/Mastodon servers. something self-hostable, so I could run those services without worrying about pedos and trolls ruining my platform. I'm not sure if something like it exists. I'm not sure if it could exist. PhotoDNA (the old CSAM detector) ended up being somewhat reversible, so that you could ac…
I am working on something like this using multimodal models
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They start outlawing encryption altogether? This is the direction places like the UK have gone in, yes. Can't decrypt something? Then we assume it is illegal content.
Steganography it is then. Can't assume something is illegal, if it's hidden.
Sure you can. For example, UK will jail you if you refuse to disclose a cryptographic key for something encrypted that the court wants to see, so long as the judge is convinced that you know it. I could easily see that extending to steganography: "there's no rational justification for you to have this file, and statistical analysis patterns show that it likely has a steganographic payload".
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do. Are you going to the the "pedo" that is against protecting the children and catching predators? I know it's diseingenuous but these laws are crafted with that in mind. People that might take a real chance in challenging this are weeded out long before they get to these positions.
I expect moms sharing bathtime pictures and videos with each other to get caught up in this as the censors get aroused by the content and project their own feelings of arousal and cognitive dissonance onto the parents sending bobbies and armed police to kick down doors. The legal costs and permenant damage to reputation will undoubtedly destroy many people.
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#189Samizdat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samizdat
Self-host may be the new Samizdat.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fatigue? We are fighting this with different names since 2002. I guess normal people just can't hear about it anymore and that's probably on purpose.
Totally. This is exactly the problem with things like Chat Control in the EU and KOSA in the US. They will just introduce the same bill over and over and over again until they get the desired result. What we need is for legislatures to pass "NO Chat Control" and "NO KOSA" bills that specifically block this behavior, but unsurprisingly governments don't seem to be too keen about limiting their own rights, only those o…
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