In Germany: Nowhere because the Deutsche Bahn is late again:
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-a-third-of-long-distance-train...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/oct/14/its-the-sam...
Where can you go in Europe by train in 8h?
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#182I clicked a city, and I have no idea how to "un click" it. I tried refreshing the page as well. It's stuck with the first city I clicked on.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
China, Russia, and India have high speed rail. Can you cite the reasons that these large countries are capable of building high speed rail while the US is not? Where is the recent innovation in US air travel? It has gotten considerably worse over the last 30 years. Supersonic passenger flights stopped in 2003 around the same time that TSA added hours to every flight.
Russia hardly has high speed rail, it's just one line (Moscow to St. Petersburg) and top speed is just 200 km/h for most of the line.
2.5 times faster than any train in my wealthy, western country.
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#184About 20 years ago, I visited most of Europe’s major cities over the course of a two-month trip, traveling primarily by night train. Each overnight ride saved me the cost of a hostel or guesthouse, and I’d arrive in a new city each morning feeling refreshed because of the train’s sleeping accommodations. There used to be a similar service between Toronto and Montreal (both directions), where the train would pause for…
The state railways have large exited night trains as a form of transport, due to economics, although it’s a much more sustainable form of transportation compared to aviation. Since Europe has a liberalized market in the rail sector, some startups are trying to fill the gap. European sleeper operates a night train on the route Brussel-Amsterdam-Berlin-Prague, using old rented rolling stock. I’m involved with Luna Rail…
I've been wondering how long it would take for a startup to figure out how to build train cars for cheaper than the incumbents. I know it's hard, but not as hard as building airplanes... As long as the authorities agree to certify them, and I could see a lot of corruption there.
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#185Since train fans always like to point this out when it comes to flying: this is how far you can get in 8 hours on the train . It doesn’t include the time to get to the station, the buffer time you need (if your train leaves at 0700 you can’t plan to get there at 06:59), and the time to travel from the destination station to your actual destination. Actual travel time for an 8 hour train ride is probably at least clos…
How is this different when flying?
also, you can take overnight trains. I find it very comfortable - you wake up and enjoy your day in some nice town, then go back home. Great weekend getaway without really spending awake time on travel, airports, security etc
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#186What a shame we don't have yet a high-speed line between Lisbon and Madrid. Two "sibling" countries, intertwined Iberian history and heritage, yet to travel between the capitals it's a 17-hour journey passing through Lisbon, Porto, Vigo (Galicia) and then Madrid.
It looks like they're constructing a high speed route from Madrid to Badajoz to be finished by 2030, with the goal of extending to Lisbon. [1]
I lived in Madrid for a few years... It's hard to get anywhere from there by train outside of Spain, though it's definitely easier now than it used to be thanks to the high speed train to Barcelona.
1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid%E2%80%93Extremadura_h...
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#187For Germany it’s far from reality… it shows from Paderborn to Dortmund in less than hour, but usually it’s good if you get there in two hours by train…
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#188Waiting for the snarky comments about the Dutch NS so I don’t have to make them :)
You can complain about the Dutch NS, but in most countries, it’s way worse.
Some numbers people from other countries can only dream about:
punctuality less than 5 minutes: 89.7% punctuality less than 15 minutes: 97.0%
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#189A rather incomplete list, at least for those starting from Sweden which only seems to allow access to neighbouring Scandinavian countries according to it. Well, no, I regularly - about once a month - take a train from there to the Netherlands, via Denmark and Germany. Given the presence of a Book through Deutsche Bahn button for all trips I'd expect that option to be available but alas, it's Denmark or bust.
You take a train from Sweden to the Netherlands in 8 hours? From where in Sweden? I've done the Stockholm - Amsterdam route a couple of times, and it's usually closer to 16 hours.
No, not in 8 hours, in something between 15 and 21 hours. What is missing in the list is the fact that you can be in Hamburg in about 8 hours, give or take a bit. In other words the fact that you can be 'on the continent' within the given timeframe.
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#190Another interactive map called chronotrains was discussed here in 2022, the original site is no longer available so I'm not sure if it is the same project just monetized. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32276017 (439 comments) In my view the previous version easier to use and more fun. Some similar projects: https://www.mapnificent.net/ https://app.traveltime.com/
Another one; where you can get to without changing trains, and how long it takes: https://direkt.bahn.guru/