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Defecting from North Korea is now harder

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Re: Defecting from North Korea is now harder

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post #156

I wonder how many more decades of suffering it will take for the NK People to finally rid themselves of their government. Or perhaps it's at a point were the indoctrination is so complete and the control of the government so absolute that it is essentially stable forever.

NK would collapse in a month if the CCP cut them off from resources.

NM can't generate what is necessary for their own survival because they have implemented their own torture chamber of a nation.

Re: Defecting from North Korea is now harder

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It’s also a country where the people are indoctrinated to believe their great leader is born under a double rainbow and descended straight from heaven, didn’t defecate ever, learnt to walk aged 3 weeks (yup) and to speak 5 weeks later at 8 weeks (yup), wrote 1500 books over 3 years, along with 6 operas (the bestest in the history of music, no less), and scored a 38 under par with 11 holes in one on the one and only N…

> It’s also a country where the people are indoctrinated to believe their great leader is born under a double rainbow and descended straight from heaven Doesn't sound too much different from countries where the people are indoctrinated to believe their leader was born from a virgin, doesn't it? You'll say the difference is 2000 years into the history, so, we just need to give NK ~1925 more years.

Double rainbow leader also blasts family away with giant cannons point blank.

Re: Defecting from North Korea is now harder

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post #143

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Any details you can share? Sounds interesting, but I probably won't get around to reading it.

Yeah i created this for a school project https://www.figma.com/file/UbkESYe64NjlmikA1WeC4k/Angels%C3%...

Wow this is horrible

Re: Defecting from North Korea is now harder

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post #74

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The South Korean constitution treats North Korea as an integral part of its territory, currently occupied by hostile forces. Therefore, anyone from North Korea is automatically, and in fact always has been, a citizen of South Korea. It's not just asylum, nor "de facto" citizenship. It's full citizenship, period. There's a mandatory program that every refugee must go through, not only to get them accustomed to South K…

What's the legal basis for making their integration program mandatory if North Korean "refugees" are full citizens? What law would a person who refused the program be charged under?

Lots of things are mandatory for full citizens: education, military service, taxation, and generally not breaking any law.

Re: Defecting from North Korea is now harder

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Reputable, reliable (tm) American sources also led to a million deaths in Iraq based on what turned out to be false premises. Yet your very own logic would've called "a spade a spade" and would've meant actually believing Iraq had usable WMDs because I mean, that's just the hard truth! Every reliable source on your side said so! Who would even believe Iraqi/arabic media that shouted for a year that Iraq didn't have t…

An even more bitter pill - a lot of Americans still apparently believe there were WMDs found in Iraq.

Doubling down is a well known ego protection mechanism.

Re: Defecting from North Korea is now harder

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post #73

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Are you asking for evidence that knowing everyone’s locations and travel itineraries would assist in contact tracing? Because I think that one is obvious. Otherwise, I’m not particularly interested in having a COVID conversation.

We would also have to track all the animals that could carry Covid to be accurate. That's hard to do...

Why? Do you have any proof that humans were infected by animals in more than a few cases?

Re: Defecting from North Korea is now harder

#188
post #35

Recently read the book Escape from camp 13 I think it gives a good insight how life is in North Korea can recommend it

It's not. The author's own dad publically called him out as a liar about his story (I believe the author claimed his dad was dead). It's a fabricated story, like almost all defector stories from North Korea. Stories like his sells well, and there's no way to verify any of it.

Re: Defecting from North Korea is now harder

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I'm sure you learned all that from other US/South Korean articles like this one, right? I watched a documentary about North Korean defectors that wanted to go back to North Korea, one of the many reasons was to be with their families. They never mentioned their family were imprisioned. And it wouldn't make much sense to want to go back if their family was imprisioned. Again, I'm no North Korean supporter or whatever,…

The reason why we learn about North Korea almost exclusively from the Western sources is because it's a totalitarian dictatorship that suppresses information. You can check out their media online and see for yourself that it's full of propaganda. We don't get tourists from North Korea because they aren't allowed to leave the country. We don't talk with North Korean people on the internet, because their access to the…

Apparently, "blind contrarianism" is when you don't take random blogs and news articles spouting ridiculous and unsubstantiated claims as gospel.

Re: Defecting from North Korea is now harder

#190
post #30

I'm not saying North Korea is a paradise or anything, but the country is technically still at war with the South Korea, which is heavily backed by the US. I wonder how much can be trusted from a NY Times(a US media company) article written by the "Seoul bureau chief for The New York Times".

More trusted than you, mate!

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