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If God is omniscient, he can't do shit to punish you as he already knew you would commit a sin since the beginning of times.
Yes, the conflict of omniscience and free will is known in theology. I think they try to solve it by redefining omniscience to "being able to know everything but also being able to exclude stuff from one's knowledge".
How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey deadalus, quick question here: how does all of this compare to Luciferianism and left-hand path kind of stuff? I started reading some of the latter, but I found them to be so ridden with grammar errors that I wish Satan were an English teacher. Perhaps the most decent book I found was Anton LaVey's The Satanic Bible, but so far I am finding it too down-to-earth to quench my thirst for the exotic. By the way, do y…
Most of the authors I linked here are not linked with Luciferianism. They deal with occult 'rituals' in order to gain a certain result - wealth, love, happiness, destruction of enemies, getting more opportunities. So you can expect to find a lot of rituals that aid you in getting those results. The work is not philosophical or analytical - but result oriented. Here is the link to 'Liber Azerate' in English : https://…
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"Metaphysical" is a confused word. You don't have to include spiritual stuff in your model of the world (there's plenty of people who don't, and this doesn't seem to stop them from leading outwardly fulfilling lives!) but if you do, you're going to see it as no less "natural" than anything you'd include in your 'common sense natural world as depicted in everyday conversation or in a movie/book'. It's literally someth…
Fair enough. Then would you say the spiritual plane that can be accessed or interacted with via these rituals, couldn't be fully described under the laws of physics as we currently know them? (Obviously almost any phenomenon can't be fully described by the laws of physics in the sense that it's too complex to account for the location and state of every elementary particle involved. But I mean in the sense of introduc…
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#184Since we are on a metaphorical plane today. Let me put my comment along similar lines on a youtube video [1] You see in Zombie movies, the zombie is always trying to turn an individual capable of moral decisions, empathy, insight into just another zombie out of his own self interest. Our society is actually far closer to the truth shown in those movies. Just because people are not biting each other does not mean thos…
That makes sense. So the majority of us are already zombies
Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
#185Since we are on a metaphorical plane today. Let me put my comment along similar lines on a youtube video [1] You see in Zombie movies, the zombie is always trying to turn an individual capable of moral decisions, empathy, insight into just another zombie out of his own self interest. Our society is actually far closer to the truth shown in those movies. Just because people are not biting each other does not mean thos…
Zombies are not really selfish - I mean, if you were chasing one human in a horde and you were selfish, wouldn't you, for example, try to eliminate or exclude the competition? They are, rather, single-minded to the exclusion of any priorities other than one.
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#186Notes for those planning to sell your soul online: eBay specifically prohibits such transactions. [1] Compared to some online bans, the reasoning is pleasingly coherent. eBay does not allow the auctioning of human souls for the following reasons: If the soul does not exist, eBay could not allow the auctioning of the soul because there would be nothing to sell. However, if the soul does exist then, in accordance with…
To this day, constructive mathematicians at eBay are trying to close the remaining loophole in the ban's reasoning
*: Give or take technicalities.
Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fair enough. Then would you say the spiritual plane that can be accessed or interacted with via these rituals, couldn't be fully described under the laws of physics as we currently know them? (Obviously almost any phenomenon can't be fully described by the laws of physics in the sense that it's too complex to account for the location and state of every elementary particle involved. But I mean in the sense of introduc…
Nope, I wouldn't necessarily say that. Just as there's many people who don't acknowledge the spiritual in their model of the world, there's many, many people who do very real magick using nothing more than the commonly acknowledged laws of physics! We generally call them scientists and engineers. And the kind of magick they customarily deal in (known, somewhat conventionally, as "natural magick") is probably the most…
I don't think of myself as very literal-minded. I've spent hundreds of hours doing things like meditation and lucid dreaming and have experienced a range of states of consciousness. I'm even interested in very wild (but naturalist and law-bound) accounts of why subjective experience exists, like mind/body dualism and Russellian monism.
In this sense I appreciate people like psi researchers who at least overtly say "yes there are supernatural phenomena that go against the current laws of physics, we understand them very little if at all, but we're trying to get some initial data." I don't think they've ever succeeded, but at least I know how to have a conversation with them. But in other cases the answers just get bogged down in elliptical wording that I can't even understand, and I think that's what happened here.
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#188Father God, I come to you in the Name of Jesus, declaring that no weapon that is formed against us shall prosper and every tongue which rises against us in judgement we do condemn. This is our heritage as servants of the Lord and our righteousness is from You, O Lord of Hosts (Isaiah 54:17). If there are those who have been speaking or praying against us or who have rejected us, even cursed us, we forgive them and, having forgiven them, we bless them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:43, Romans 12:14). Now we declare, O Lord, that You and You alone are our God, and besides You there is no other God. You are a just God and Saviour: You are Creator, Redeemer, Faithful, Loving God. You are Father, Jesus the Son and Holy Spirit – and we worship You! Your Word says: “Submit yourself to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” So we submit ourselves afresh to You in unreserved obedience. Having submitted to You, Lord, we do as Your Word directs. We resist the devil: all his pressures, his attacks, his deceptions, every instrument or agent he would seek to use against us. We do not submit! We resist him, drive him from us and exclude him from us in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Specifically we reject and repel: • Every form of witchcraft. Every influence of the occult. • Every spirit of infirmity: infections, malignancies, viruses, pain, inflammation, and allergies. • Every spirit of depression and heaviness; confusion and deception. • Every spirit of accusation and condemnation. Thank You, Father, that You confuse the plans the enemy has against us. Finally, Lord, we thank You that through the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, we have passed out from under the curse and entered into the blessing of Abraham, whom You blessed in all things (Galatians 3:13-14, Genesis 24:1). Thank You for Your favour, Your presence, Your provision, Your protection. Thank You for good health, victory, exaltation, reproductiveness, and prosperity.
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#189Please whatever you do, dont mess with this stuff. Ive really had interactions of this kind and I can tell you it is not fun, you will not be happy or at peace. Satan is a liar,murderer and deceiver. Jesus came to save you and even if you have "sold" your soul to satan then just know that Jesus defeated satan on the cross and paid for your soul with his blood.
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Nope, I wouldn't necessarily say that. Just as there's many people who don't acknowledge the spiritual in their model of the world, there's many, many people who do very real magick using nothing more than the commonly acknowledged laws of physics! We generally call them scientists and engineers. And the kind of magick they customarily deal in (known, somewhat conventionally, as "natural magick") is probably the most…
Yeah, to be honest, parts of this message I'm having trouble even parsing as information. If you've had/seen interactions like this where the other person just seemed too literal-minded, I'd ask you to think about whether your ability to explain it is also contributing. Maybe it's a bit of both. Certainly, I don't pretend this stuff is easy to explain to an outsider. But I think of people like the clearest defenders…