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How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by tsimionescu »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #150
samatman wrote: post #122

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My argument against this is as follows: would you sell your dignity for $10? Now, my dignity doesn't exist in any sense which makes selling it meaningful. So it's kind of like free money. But really it isn't. There's someone out there who can say "I own samatman's dignity, and I got it for cheap". I'm a guy who sold his dignity, and everyone knows it. I feel like people would judge me for that. There are definitely p…

Counterpoint: I have serious doubt that many people (even those religious) believe you can sell your soul using a contract from the legal system in this mortal world. Thus, almost everyone should see it as the joke/fun that it is, and not you actually valuing your soul at $10. "I sold my soul for $10" is a lot better icebreaker than I've ever used.

Religious people who believe in the existence and sanctity of the human soul would probably see such a transaction as something similar to spitting on a holy object - it doesn't hurt the object itself, but as a symbolic gesture it shows your lack of respect for it.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

deadalus wrote: post #7

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Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by anthk »

praptak wrote: post #79
alangibson wrote: post #73

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That's not the way math works. G-d himself can't reverse a hash. Before you go invoking the "miracle" loophole, consider that miracles are logically impossible. If an impossible thing happens, then it was not in fact impossible. We just didn't understand the rules.

God himself is omniscient, so He by definition knows all the reverses of all hashes. Also, to know the reverse of any hash you don't even need full omniscience, just "merely" the knowledge of anything that ever happened. Rewind the history of the universe, read the reverse from RAM when the hash was computed, done.

If God is omniscient, he can't do shit to punish you as he already knew you would commit a sin since the beginning of times.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by anthk »

On Christianism, it's just a metaphor on the first agricultural societies and the fights between the hunting-hoarders and land workers. You know, the roots of.. civilisation. Solstice is celebrated and so is the harvest times which are exactly the months of Jesus' death. Oh, and the Virgo placement in the sky matches harvest times, too. So, all of you Christians are nothing more than secret vegetarians.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by classified »

mimixco wrote: post #97
classified wrote: post #94

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Couldn't the Bockchain be used to make sure souls can be optioned away only once? We would have finally found a use for the Blockchain after all!

Fantastic! Surely someone will torture you for your key, no? This needs to be an episode of Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell.

Even with the key the transaction cannot be deleted. The eternity of the soul is a perfect fit for an append-only ledger.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by praptak »

anthk wrote: post #163
praptak wrote: post #79

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God himself is omniscient, so He by definition knows all the reverses of all hashes. Also, to know the reverse of any hash you don't even need full omniscience, just "merely" the knowledge of anything that ever happened. Rewind the history of the universe, read the reverse from RAM when the hash was computed, done.

If God is omniscient, he can't do shit to punish you as he already knew you would commit a sin since the beginning of times.

Yes, the conflict of omniscience and free will is known in theology. I think they try to solve it by redefining omniscience to "being able to know everything but also being able to exclude stuff from one's knowledge".

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by [deleted] »

abecedarius wrote: post #90
hodgesrm wrote: post #11

Notes for those planning to sell your soul online: eBay specifically prohibits such transactions. [1] Compared to some online bans, the reasoning is pleasingly coherent. eBay does not allow the auctioning of human souls for the following reasons: If the soul does not exist, eBay could not allow the auctioning of the soul because there would be nothing to sell. However, if the soul does exist then, in accordance with…

About a dozen people sold their souls on Twitter a while back, so there's another venue. E.g. https://twitter.com/liminal_warmth/status/142135011902313677... Terms: https://liminalwarmth.com/contract-for-sale-of-soul/ Discussion: https://liminalwarmth.com/the-questionable-ethics-of-buying-... As a total atheist I'd still say don't do it. It's not farfetched to interpret the word 'soul' as a future high-res brain scan…

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Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by zozbot234 »

normac2 wrote: post #155
zozbot234 wrote: post #151

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One does not have to believe "that the supernatural claims behind these rituals are real in some literal sense" to be very wary of this sort of stuff - magick is not something that works along "literal" lines in the first place! Anything that you do in a serious magickal ritual (and if you're intending to "sell your soul", that definitely qualifies!) can have very real and long-lasting effects in the spiritual plane.…

It sounds like you're referring to "spiritual plane" as something that is a distinct metaphysical entity that exists alongside what would be normally be seen as the natural world. (In this case I mean "metaphysical" in the philosophical sense.) I realize that "natural world" is a fraught concept in itself, but please take me in a common sense reading; basically what would be seen as natural in everyday conversation o…

"Metaphysical" is a confused word. You don't have to include spiritual stuff in your model of the world (there's plenty of people who don't, and this doesn't seem to stop them from leading outwardly fulfilling lives!) but if you do, you're going to see it as no less "natural" than anything you'd include in your 'common sense natural world as depicted in everyday conversation or in a movie/book'. It's literally something that's part of the exact same web of cause-effect relations as what we all acknowledge as 'physical'. The metaphysical question is ultimately uninteresting and we don't need it to work with this stuff effectively.
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