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Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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Why? Was it an anti-Muslim thing? Disgusting anyways. Putting the discrimination aside (well that sounded insensitive but bear with me), very sorry for those poor people who are like me, who get a red face for DAYS after shaving.

>Was it an anti-Muslim thing? Officially, no. But in reality, yes. They want to make the Uyghurs more Han to reduce feelings of separatism.

They wish to completely eradicate all Uyghur culture. "One China" means one Han race and culture.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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For context, these are China's current restrictions on gaming for minors (under age 18): - Maximum 1.5 hours of gaming on weekdays - Maximum 3 hours of gaming on weekends - No games between 10pm and 8am (note that school typically starts between 7 and 8am) South Korea has similar types of restrictions, by the way. No gaming for minors (under 16) between midnight and 6am. I think Vietnam may have something similar as…

I had no idea such laws existed. That's pretty crazy. But then, this is a gov't that does not trust its citizens to raise their own children, or even historically to decide how many kids to have. When I was a kid in America, my parents disallowed videogames in the house. No NES or Genesis for us. On the occasions I'd go over to other kids' houses and play, I had no idea what I was doing. On the one hand, this seemed…

I don't think your family experience somehow can represent everyone in this world. There are parents working shifts may not have time to manage their kids as your parents did. The view you have on this world is so distorted, why many people don't choose to eat healthy when they "can" all to eat organic home cooked food.

It is like you don't sell cigarettes to kids. Sure you can say the governments don't trust their parents on how to teach their kids. Gaming is a health issue the same as everything else.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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It's not the first time. All smartfones have a microfone and a camera. And if you think that they are used only for making pictures and talking on the phone - dream on.

Don’t you think someone — possibly a user of this site — would have noticed the network traffic? Not only are you implying that there is a back door in the phone operating systems, but also in every other device on the same network as the phone to hide such traffic. What you’re suggesting is certainly possible , but the idea that it’s been rolled out to the average person doesn’t seem likely.

> Don’t you think someone — possibly a user of this site — would have noticed the network traffic?

Given how much analytics garbage phones regularly spew out, you'd have to perform HTTPS MITM attacks to check this – and that's the kind of thing that alters the behaviour of the system you're measuring.

I still don't think it's likely, but if somebody were to find some suspicious code, I have no real reason to doubt that it's doing something like this.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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Why? Was it an anti-Muslim thing? Disgusting anyways. Putting the discrimination aside (well that sounded insensitive but bear with me), very sorry for those poor people who are like me, who get a red face for DAYS after shaving.

>Was it an anti-Muslim thing? Officially, no. But in reality, yes. They want to make the Uyghurs more Han to reduce feelings of separatism.

Do you know what the euphemistic justification was? “Cleanliness”? I cannot think of one that is not absurd to even the dimmest ethno-nationalist of my imagination.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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>. All governments and societies make all kinds of "tyrannical" rules about raising children, in the name of limiting harm to children No, they objectively don't, wtf. Stop normalizing this kind of behavior

Feel free to name at least one government or society which has no such rules. All societies have them, and many such rules are widely accepted by the societies that have them as beneficial. E.g. such laws are the reason parents are not allowed to expose their children to obscene images, even if the parents really are convinced that doing so would benefit their children.

Perhaps an example of a rule or law a European country has, but China doesn't.

I think one example is the age of consent, which is 14 in China, lower than most of Europe and the USA. It's a good alternative to video games...

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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The technology exists, right. But have you experienced it anywhere outside of China? I, for one, have not (at least in the UE). I strongly believe that the average western customer is not be willing to go through such a process.

Most (all maybe?) of the new German banks and fintech products seem to offer it as they have no physical branches, you can often open accounts directly from your smartphone. Some will offer a way of identifying yourself via a post office with your passport too.

This is for the equivalent of Facebook Messenger or playing a F2P game, not fintech - bank requires even more, and linking a "real name ID" IRL bank account anyway.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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KYC?

Know your customer Basically identifying your customer and confirming their identity, e.g. via a video call or at a post office etc.

Know them so well, you can deepfake them later and make their avatar say whatever you want. Nice job if you can get it!

(Kind of like the scarier version of the store cashier stealing your credit card digits - because you can’t just order a new one.)

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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This is I believe the first time in human history that AI video cameras have been widely deployed, inside private homes, for the purpose of enforcing laws. Never mind the banal details: this is an incredible milestone.

The chinese app wechat already does this in private homes for the purpose of enforcing KYC and "misinformation tracking" - you are required to repeat after it, repeat every phoneme/syllable to form a voiceprint (and coincidentally enough to basically train something to replicate your speech), look straight ahead, rotate around your head, and follow its instructions to sign in again. Also, asking two verified-ID mainl…

I wonder if it's even possible for Chinese citizens to play rouge/nethack.

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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So does American football, which kids in America are expected to learn: https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1038120/over-99-of-nfl-p... Let's not assume the drinking age is anything to do with evidence.

What government, at any level, in America has a rule mandating that children learn American tackle football?

Expected socially, not mandated. You're not mandated to drink alcohol either.

It's also a top public spending priority: https://www.athleticbusiness.com/college/the-highest-paid-pu...

Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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It's very ironic, isn't it. They're trying to protect kids. By spying on them.

We in "the west" can't claim moral superiority unfortunately, we live in surveillance states ourselves and a ton of laws limiting freedom and removing privacy are made with the intent to "protect children" (and fight terrorism), both of which you can't morally object against. Children are sacred, terrorists are outlaws.

We absolutely can claim moral superiority, while being open to a critique of our hypocrisy - and to changing our ways based on this critique. To do otherwise than seek and claim moral superiority would be to concede to grim relativism; it would be to discard what progress we have made and what rights we still maintain; it would be to abandon an ideal that can yet still lead us to a better world.

Lincoln wrote, in reference to abolition, that he “[would rather move] to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.” [0] But the irony is that hypocrisy drove him and this nation to emancipation, and an improved iteration of the city on a hill.

0 - http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/speed.h...

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