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KYC?
Know your customer Basically identifying your customer and confirming their identity, e.g. via a video call or at a post office etc.
Knowing intimately your customer.
Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But then, this is a gov't that does not trust its citizens to raise their own children, or even historically to decide how many kids to have. The Chinese government is worse than most others, but not for this reason. All governments and societies make all kinds of "tyrannical" rules about raising children, in the name of limiting harm to children. This is no different. In Germany, the government does not trust pare…
> The same adults are not trusted to make the decision of buying and drinking beer. My understanding is that studies showed that drinking before a certain age (on average of course) has a high chance of causing physiological brain deterioration, but I haven’t done any recent research to see if this was still a thing. The age requirement is the government not trusting their citizens not to damage themselves.
> The age requirement is the government not trusting their citizens not to damage themselves.
The incoherence is still there.
Not trusted not to damage themselves with alcool, but trusted to be given weapons and sent to the far side of the world where quite a few people would love to get their heads or, barring that, at least kill them?
From the little research I’ve done, soldiers have greater chances of dying violently, being maimed, of remaining traumatised years after their service, and of killing themselves once back home (apparently more kill themselves after than are killed in action by enemy bullets [1]).
How is letting them enlist not letting them damage themselves?
It isn’t, because the average age of the enlisted soldier is less than 21. So if they actually went all the way and bothered being aligned with themselves and their supposed values, they’d bar anyone less than 21 from joining the army and lose many, many, of what are probably the most easy to recruit recruits.
It’s just hypocrisy dressed up in fine rags.
[1]: https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/mental-healt...
Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
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What do they do to people that can’t conform?
About ten to fifteen years ago, “Internet addiction” was perceived to be a big problem among the youth in China. Kids would skip school and play video games in Internet cafes. Someone opened an “Internet addiction treatment center”. Parents would pay to send their kids there, where they are deprived of their freedom, be indoctrinated about their “sins”, and even subject to electric shock. [1] The state official telev…
Can you expand on what you mean by "everyone is an internet addict"? I mean in the examples you gave, you mention the children skipped school - which is a problem. The article and some other commenters mention a nighttime gaming ban - which is a reaction to kids staying up at night to play video games. Clearly there IS a problem, and the Chinese government has this way of solving it.
In the west there's similar solutions. For game time, parents can use parental controls, time limits and bedtimes to set up phones and the like to not work at night. The government(s) are more concerned about gambling mechanics in games.
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#174It's very ironic, isn't it. They're trying to protect kids. By spying on them.
It's not ironic at all. All protection is traded with freedom.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But then, this is a gov't that does not trust its citizens to raise their own children, or even historically to decide how many kids to have. The Chinese government is worse than most others, but not for this reason. All governments and societies make all kinds of "tyrannical" rules about raising children, in the name of limiting harm to children. This is no different. In Germany, the government does not trust pare…
>. All governments and societies make all kinds of "tyrannical" rules about raising children, in the name of limiting harm to children No, they objectively don't, wtf. Stop normalizing this kind of behavior
One would hope for a better supported rebuttal given that the gp went through the trouble of giving a few examples.
Or is that more of a firmly and deeply held personal belief more akin to blind faith or hopeful candor than an actual opinion supported by facts?
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Re: Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night
#176It's very ironic, isn't it. They're trying to protect kids. By spying on them.
We in "the west" can't claim moral superiority unfortunately, we live in surveillance states ourselves and a ton of laws limiting freedom and removing privacy are made with the intent to "protect children" (and fight terrorism), both of which you can't morally object against. Children are sacred, terrorists are outlaws.
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#177This is clearly (at least to the Western sensibilities) a vast government overreach into private life, but can we marvel for a second at a company employing AI to curb addictive behavior towards its product? I definitely don't agree with the government mandates dictating how and when you can play video games, but it is kind of incredible to see a company use AI for something other than encouraging addictive behavior…
> employing AI to curb addictive behavior towards its product
Not out of goodwill.
Tencent profits hugely from gaming addiction, they know it and exploit it to whatever extent they could without drawing serious ire. They use their near monopoly on personal communications (WeChat, QQ) and huge market share on social media (WeChat), video streaming (Tencent Video) and other forms of media to subtly and not-so-subtly push their cash cow games, Honor of Kings being the prime example. I won’t list the shady tactics I’ve heard, which you can hear from I suppose any young urban-dwelling person in China.
They are a big part of the problem in the first place.
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#178So that's how it begins.
Begins? It began years if not decades ago already.
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>. All governments and societies make all kinds of "tyrannical" rules about raising children, in the name of limiting harm to children No, they objectively don't, wtf. Stop normalizing this kind of behavior
Feel free to name at least one government or society which has no such rules. All societies have them, and many such rules are widely accepted by the societies that have them as beneficial. E.g. such laws are the reason parents are not allowed to expose their children to obscene images, even if the parents really are convinced that doing so would benefit their children.
The Dutch government?
Also, how is "not allowing homeschooling" tyrannical? Corona especially has shown us that the quality of education received at a school is much higher than at home. Every child deserves to not be held back by their parents in this way.
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This verification process exists in Europe as well (it's called liveness verification), example: https://www.jumio.com/technology/live-detection/
The technology exists, right. But have you experienced it anywhere outside of China? I, for one, have not (at least in the UE). I strongly believe that the average western customer is not be willing to go through such a process.
I used it to access my medical records from the UK without actually going to the UK.
I thought that was reasonable, but it didn't occur to me that reading the numbers was enough to train an AI to reproduce my voice. Now I'm less sure.