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Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by majkinetor »

floatingatoll wrote: post #179
majkinetor wrote: post #86

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Amazingly incorrect observation. All "non-bloat" mentioned above is mostly one big pile of shit that you generally do not need and might need only on specific machine AND in specific context. Running this concrete debloater might produce some unwanted side effects which are easy enough to fix, but it sure as heaven makes a system at least x2 faster ALL THE TIME. Yeah, spotify is a bloat if you don't use it, just as c…

My years-old iMac runs Windows 1904 just fine, and about three years ago Defender stopping thrashing my disk to death. I’m not sure what they improved but clearly it’s a lot more at peace with itself. I’ve made a point never^ to expert user pebcak it, and last April’s update was quite chill and this April’s as well. I did a pass at install time to remove apps I don’t plan to use. The most dramatic things to happen ha…

> And if it can work on an iMac without powershell drama, then surely it can work on any normal PC.

Powershell drama, I like it :)

No drama really, just slow machine is all.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by 9HZZRfNlpR »

nickjj wrote: post #167
9HZZRfNlpR wrote: post #161

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You can hibernate both instead of cold reboot.

Yeah that's not a bad idea. It's still a big context switch to dual boot tho. Also dumping your entire machine's RAM to disk on an SSD seems questionable for the lifespan of your SSD. That's a huge amount of writes, especially if you're dual booting a few times a day. But maybe it wouldn't matter? I haven't measured how much of an impact that would have. And in my case, it wouldn't work because I need to be able to r…

I think the SSD write cycle fears are overrated. I might be wrong. I've been doing it for years with extremely cheap Kingston SSD's. I also need to edit videos, not too often, hence I need windows. Switching takes like 6 seconds, most of the time from waiting for the grub menu. It might be worth to try out the workflow.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by vitorgrs »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #104
soganess wrote: post #77

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I've got 256GB and a fresh install of windows use about 4 with a few things running on startup(mostly just the amd+nvidia drivers). There is indeed some scaling with availability but with diminishing returns after probably 8/16gb of available ram. What I find more interesting is that windows still compresses and swaps on startup even with that much ram available.

Disable swap (pagefile) when you have that much ram, or even when you only have 8 or more. You lose hibernate but that's fine by me. Modern cpu and ssd cold boots pretty fast, especially if you have debloated things similar to this script. Many of the things that are pitched as beneficial, like indexing everything and caching the indexes and keeping all kinds of services alive to "quick start" other things in case yo…

If you use UWP, don't disable swap. Ever. They are 100% reliant and you'll have problems, even if you have a lot of RAM.

Reason? UWP apps will always suspend if you minimize, for example. They move that to swap. It was basically made for swap.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by vitorgrs »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #122
floatingatoll wrote: post #73

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This is marginally less terrible, but it's still terrible — for example, it considers Skype "bloat" so hopefully you didn't need that! — and the list goes on as you read through the (thankfully, fewer) scripts.

its not hard to reinstall if you actually want it, it most certainly is bloaty.

It's iMessage bloat on iOS or macOS?

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by kevingadd »

heyoni wrote: post #114
kevingadd wrote: post #60

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You can verify some of this by examining a lot of the running memory bloat in https://live.sysinternals.com/procexp.exe (official diagnostics tool by sysinternals, a microsoft subsidiary), just make sure to elevate to see full process info with 'show details on all processes'. On my machine a bunch of UWP apps are loaded passively in the background. A few are UWP apps I use occasionally, a few aren't. I don't know wh…

Doesn’t this become an issue when your memory intensive apps close? Because after being evicted, wouldn’t Cortana and all the other stuff need a second to be reloaded into memory?

Yes, but the effect is the same as if files were evicted from the page cache: They get reloaded from disk when next used. Better for cortana to take an extra 750ms to load than for your other app to run out of memory.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by poizan42 »

nitrogen wrote: post #175
michaelmrose wrote: post #154

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You are over complicating. In general applications don't manage their ram usage based on available resources they just take what they need until your system starts swapping. The OS manages memory and evicts cache to make use for applications when they request it. The good thing about a cached file is that it is available on disk to be reread any time you like.

I've used applications that will specifically allocate (available memory * x) or similar because they or their plugins can't handle ENOMEM or the Windows equivalent, and they do not want to swap.

Those applications were broken anyways, see https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20120118-00/?p=85...

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by nitrogen »

poizan42 wrote: post #186
nitrogen wrote: post #175

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I've used applications that will specifically allocate (available memory * x) or similar because they or their plugins can't handle ENOMEM or the Windows equivalent, and they do not want to swap.

Those applications were broken anyways, see https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20120118-00/?p=85...

Isn't that basically what browsers do these days?
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