Okay, this stuff is great.
The question is: Why can't Microsoft just release Windows 10 Core?
Windows 10 Debloat Script
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Is there any way to tell it to use up less or more RAM? It would be very dumb if this weren't configurable
But why would you want you RAM to sit unused? The OS uses all the RAM available for caching if nothing else wants it for something more important.
Are memory-heavy applications able to detect true available memory? I could see an app that tries to scale itself to available memory running with reduced performance or refusing to run if it sees non-page-cache but evictable memory as unavailable.
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Tinfoil theory incoming: NSA pressures windows to have the largest attack surface possible by default. With the hope that any given targeted system will have at least one piece of default bloatware still running, presumably they have 0-days for most all of them.
Even putting aside the tinfoil hat. The NSA would never pressure anyone to have a larger attack surface, that would just make it easier for competing nations and attackers to discover flaws, which would render their own efforts moot
They have compromised crypto standards in the past, but we can't use that to justify every conspiracy theory without evidence.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
But why would you want you RAM to sit unused? The OS uses all the RAM available for caching if nothing else wants it for something more important.
Are memory-heavy applications able to detect true available memory? I could see an app that tries to scale itself to available memory running with reduced performance or refusing to run if it sees non-page-cache but evictable memory as unavailable.
You are over complicating.
In general applications don't manage their ram usage based on available resources they just take what they need until your system starts swapping.
The OS manages memory and evicts cache to make use for applications when they request it. The good thing about a cached file is that it is available on disk to be reread any time you like.
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I run Windows 10 on a 10 year old htpc with 3gb ram. Leaves enough memory to run a few background services and kodi with zero problems.
Exactly. People get mad when things on their system are using the memory they purchased. The only problem is when it's actually using the memory and Windows starts dying because other programs aren't freeing up enough memory. Same thing for chrome - often people say "chrome eats your RAM" but it's just being as efficient as it can be - if your OS asks it to free ram, it will and 8GB of webpages can go down to 4GB at…
The problem is, that at least in my experience chrome never does that. Which is why I recently had only 5g "available" (not free), and it was all swap, because Chrome had been a degenerate example of resource mismanagement on all of my computers since it was first released. I have yet to see Chrome free memory in way other than murdering the render process myself or closing the tabs and hoping it wasn't a shared process one, at least on Linux.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
I run Windows 10 on a 10 year old htpc with 3gb ram. Leaves enough memory to run a few background services and kodi with zero problems.
Exactly. People get mad when things on their system are using the memory they purchased. The only problem is when it's actually using the memory and Windows starts dying because other programs aren't freeing up enough memory. Same thing for chrome - often people say "chrome eats your RAM" but it's just being as efficient as it can be - if your OS asks it to free ram, it will and 8GB of webpages can go down to 4GB at…
I'm curious, how does the OS tell Chrome to free memory? Because as far as I know, there's no API to check if another program needs memory.
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#157I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?
> easier to just use Linux? need Windows to game Exactly. I have one sole system running Win10 + Steam and Linux runs all the rest of my systems. Best setup. I still ran a similar type of debloat on my Win10 system though... just because f*ck MS and their telemetry.
I also do that, but I stream all my games to my underpowered linux machine
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#158Do your friends a favor and never run this or any like it on their systems "for their benefit". This is a prime example of "expert user footgun problem". The phrase "debloat" is a marketing-hype word that's being used to bait you all into someone's personal view of how computers should be. Expect to be forced to reinstall Windows 10 a few days or weeks after running any such script. Whenever I tech support any of my…
"This script disables Windows Defender" — Because anti-malware protection is "bloat"
I found it being around half cases of “windows update 100 cpu” issue (yes, that is still a thing in 2019). The silly fact is that windows configuration only works in almost-default state and fails with everything else. The entire system is full of hardcoded crap that doesn’t even assume configs and modes exist. The complete absence of readable diagnostics adds to this heavily, not to mention KB articles that officially suggest magic reinstall/fix steps that never work.
Otoh, I understand streamers who periodically see this idiotic “hey, pay some attention, i found no virus” in their gaming hours.
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#159I was surprised to find on a recent reinstall of Windows 10 that it no longer included the start menu full of sponsored apps and games. It was a pretty minimal install, all things considered. This was with the Education edition which is a derivative of the Pro edition I believe. I’d also highly recommend the BoxStarter setup scripts [0]. They remove all of the unnecessary default applications, perform windows updates…
I installed pro just the other day, which came with the game shortcuts. I think I just have been installing enterprise previously
It is very annoying to have to explain to your boss why you have that game installed on your machine.
Specially when his only IT experience is playing Candy Crush with his kids.
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#160If you’re going go to all this trouble to “debloat” Windows, why not just install Fedora/Ubuntu/PopOS/Debian/Manjaro or something? I just don’t see the point with fiddling around with little hacks trying to disable telemetry and stuff when you can just install a Linux distro and be done with it. I mean sure depending on your use case that may not be possible, but if you don’t have a certain software or hardware limit…
WTF, its not like you don't customize your linux system, is it ? Default Ubuntu is just as bad as default anything. I customize the shit out of it and lots of people do - just serach for dot files on github...
The point is that Linux distros are customizable by default, whereas you need to work against Windows to customize it, and all your changes will probably be reverted in the next update.