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Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#101

Do your friends a favor and never run this or any like it on their systems "for their benefit". This is a prime example of "expert user footgun problem". The phrase "debloat" is a marketing-hype word that's being used to bait you all into someone's personal view of how computers should be. Expect to be forced to reinstall Windows 10 a few days or weeks after running any such script. Whenever I tech support any of my…

> And suddenly you can't face-login to your Windows 10 computer any longer, but hey, it's "bloat"

I would want to get rid of this even if it didn't cost any resources.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#102

This is interesting. I was using the ShutUp10 tool (I am not affiliated). https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 That lists what it considers "Safe" things to turn off and I generally keep to that. I would however want to try this in a VM before running it.

W10Privacy is another great alternative

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#103
post #5

I tried running this and then I remembered why I stopped tweaking Windows, I wind up running into odd issues. Windows stopped being unstable for me years ago when I stopped fidgeting with features. I'm better off disabling as much as I can through the normal settings they provide. I don't know if it's just I'm doing something wrong but it's been my experience. I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out…

> I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out of the box. It... doesn't? I feel like last time I tried it was less than 2? Did you only install Windows or a ton of other things too? This is what it looks like "out of the box" after disabling memory compression and the pagefile: https://imgur.com/a/D5b8bk5

I have a cheap HP convertable laptop/tablet with 2GB of RAM, Windows 10 works fine on it.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#104
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd imagine it caches more if you have more ram

I've got 256GB and a fresh install of windows use about 4 with a few things running on startup(mostly just the amd+nvidia drivers). There is indeed some scaling with availability but with diminishing returns after probably 8/16gb of available ram. What I find more interesting is that windows still compresses and swaps on startup even with that much ram available.

Disable swap (pagefile) when you have that much ram, or even when you only have 8 or more. You lose hibernate but that's fine by me. Modern cpu and ssd cold boots pretty fast, especially if you have debloated things similar to this script.

Many of the things that are pitched as beneficial, like indexing everything and caching the indexes and keeping all kinds of services alive to "quick start" other things in case you happen to want them, hibernation or sleeping instead of cold boot, etc, these are all cases of adding more crap to counter the harm from previously adding other crap.

Instead of adding foofeature you don't really need, and then adding foofeatureaccelerator to try to disguise the overhead of foofeature, you can just remove both foofeature AND foofeatureaccelerator, and everything is better.

Less total software to break or misbehave or serve as a security opening. Smaller disk footprint. Fewer running processes. Less ram/disk/net resources consumed. Less telemetry. Simpler total system for you to manage, and maybe actually have a hope in hell of grasping more of what all is going on with one human head. More of your resources available for the apps and services YOU actually want, whatever they are.

Whoever wants Pandora, they can totally have it without it coming pre-bundled. If I want Pandora, I would rather install it than find it already built in. In fact, I DO want Pandora, but in fact, I use a 3rd party open source unofficial player. So even though I use it, it's still wrong for it to be built in.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do dual boot. I have windows for gaming/VR but zero development. I have Fedora for literally everything else including C#/WPF development (I run my dev environment for windows inside a VM as it makes it very simple to backup and I know that the somewhat irritating setup is perfectly replicated). Essentially at this point Win10 is relegated to been a massive console OS. I could likely run a lot of my games on Linux…

I would absolutely love to get iommu VM pass through working for gaming, but it’s never been a good experience for me with nvidia cards (vbios is usually the problem I think). AMD cards seem to be much more successful for that.

I've relied upon Unraid and its awesome community, and now I'm a happy NVidia on AMD gamer in my Win 10VM and code in Debian. There were still hurdles to get IOMMU working with Threadripper boards, but it all eventually worked. With that I have a NAS and "app store" like Docker experience I use for databases, testing new OSS projects, and game servers. Best $60 I've ever spent! Dual booting sucks.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#106

I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?

That's what I do. I use a mostly unmodified Windows 10 for gaming and audio, and Linux for work. If there is something wrong with Windows, it doesn't affect me. The Linux system, on the other hand, is constantly backed up.

I do run an "optimizer" on Windows 10 called Kerish Doctor. It's cheap and in my experience one of the few programs in that category that work well.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#107

If you’re going go to all this trouble to “debloat” Windows, why not just install Fedora/Ubuntu/PopOS/Debian/Manjaro or something? I just don’t see the point with fiddling around with little hacks trying to disable telemetry and stuff when you can just install a Linux distro and be done with it. I mean sure depending on your use case that may not be possible, but if you don’t have a certain software or hardware limit…

I do use linux 99% of the time. Do you have any other questions I can answer?

But I am still required HAVE a windows install, and use it occasionally, and not even for games, as I don't game.

So, since I must have a wondows install and actually use it, even if only infrequently, I want it to be as close to sane as I can make it.

This particular debloat script might be questionable, but the concept of debloating is not.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#108
post #6

I tried running this and then I remembered why I stopped tweaking Windows, I wind up running into odd issues. Windows stopped being unstable for me years ago when I stopped fidgeting with features. I'm better off disabling as much as I can through the normal settings they provide. I don't know if it's just I'm doing something wrong but it's been my experience. I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out…

I learned to love the defaults on everything and its liberating. Every time a new major update comes out, I do a clean install, put on Office, Visual Studio and a couple of apps and I'm good to go.

I learned to love progress bars and its liberating.

Every time I need to get something done, I can instead look at a progress bar slowly filling up.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#109

I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?

I do dual boot. I have windows for gaming/VR but zero development. I have Fedora for literally everything else including C#/WPF development (I run my dev environment for windows inside a VM as it makes it very simple to backup and I know that the somewhat irritating setup is perfectly replicated). Essentially at this point Win10 is relegated to been a massive console OS. I could likely run a lot of my games on Linux…

But given that you are only gaming on Windows, why run the debloating script?

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

#110
Funny coincidence, I recently debloated my W10 with a script as well. I saw the one in the OP during my search, but ultimately didn't go with it as it didn't look legit to me compared to another one that I found mentioned in a article guide.

Used this one:

https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater

This one does not affect anything to do with Windows Update and any important system stuff from my experience.

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