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And what if he believes it? I have little reason to doubt that Dash really posted lots of fake reviews. It's not like Apple goes and accuses people of that all the time...
I have yet to work for a company where posting fake reviews on our applications wasn't the norm. Most users (myself included) can't be bothered to write a brand new review every time an app updates.
Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
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I think I'm much less invested in this than you two but I can say that it would strike me as very unusual to pay for someone else's account with Apple. For example, Mithaldu, if an anonymous outsourcing party rendered you a service, than rather than wire them money or pay via paypal, would you be okay with paying for an apple account with them, with no further relationship, and you don't even know who they are? Proba…
It doesn't strike me as unusual. I've paid for tools and training for relatives and friends. A membership seems no more unusual. [edit: given the down votes, I guess the HN crowd has rich friends or doesn't do mentoring. Sometimes the people you sponsor don't get it right]
Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
#183In telling the other side of the story, the Dash developer published his (apparently secret) recording of a 7-minute long telephone call he had with a person at Apple who purports to be speaking on behalf of Phil Schiller.[1] Leaving aside whatever inferences might be drawn from the fact that the developer saw fit to record and publish the recording in the first place, here's a brief summary of what was said: - There…
In one part of the conversation, they mentioned that the accounts used the same bank account(Not only credit card). I assume it means the bank account that the developers is get paid with. That's even more convincing that accounts were linked. Note that you can use "arbitrary" bank accounts to get paid with(Source: I'm an apple developer.) Also The apple guy said it uses same test devices. As usual the devil is in de…
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According to his blog post [1], it sounds like the other account that was engaged in fraudulent activity was notified, but "his" account was not. [1]: https://blog.kapeli.com/dash-and-apple-my-side-of-the-story
Can someone explain how 1 account can act "nefariously" ?
Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
#185From 3:52 on the recording with the Apple rep - "Because we see them as the same entity. If we have accounts that are enrolled in our programme using the same credit card, they are the SAME legal entity. They ARE the same..." Yikes, because I often put contractor developer subscriptions and other incidental expenses on my company credit card to facilitate turnaround. Now it looks like I can get black banned if one of…
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And here's Kapeli's explanation of what happened: https://blog.kapeli.com/dash-and-apple-my-side-of-the-story !!! it includes a recording of a phone call with Apple !!! Edit: After listening to the first 2 minutes of the call, i can say with absolute confidence that Apple is straight-up blackmailing him. I would love to hear opinions on whether this is something that could be taken to court. Here's the HN submission…
After listening to the entire thing, I can say that Kapeli sounds like a complete ignoramus. He has registered an account using his credentials, the account was involved in fraudulent activity, that makes him responsible, as an individual. Why is Apple supposed to even care that he doesn't control the other account anymore? He's supposed to control the account, according to the terms of service he agreed to. If he do…
Where are you getting that? In his blog posts, he only mentioned the common thing between the accounts were his credit card and old test devices he handed off - how do those qualify as "his credentials"? He explicitly mentioned he wasn't aware that his account and his alleged relatives account were linked until after his account was blocked.
You are right - he doesn't understand the problem - and neither do I. With the information that I have so far, it seems that Apple has set the bar for guilt too low, and the whole process is extremely opaque.
Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
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It doesn't strike me as unusual. I've paid for tools and training for relatives and friends. A membership seems no more unusual. [edit: given the down votes, I guess the HN crowd has rich friends or doesn't do mentoring. Sometimes the people you sponsor don't get it right]
You write "for relatives and friends", implying a measure of trust. You don't write "for strangers I didn't know." Would you have?
It was a relative, so I don't get your question's relevance to the situation.
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You write "for relatives and friends", implying a measure of trust. You don't write "for strangers I didn't know." Would you have?
From his response "helped a relative get started by paying for her Apple’s Developer Program Membership using my credit card. I also handed her test hard" It was a relative, so I don't get your question's relevance to the situation.
Re: Apple Responds to Dash Controversy
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Of course, because no one committing fraud ever makes mistakes. I have no idea if Popescu was really involved in the fraudulent activity or not. But dismissing it as too dumb to be possible is no better than dismissing the possibility of Apple making a detection mistake as too dumb to be possible.
I didn't say it was dumb to think it "possible" for him to be the culprit. I said it was dumb to shut down a top developer account without warning.