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Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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You're not thinking like an entrepreneur. That just means that prison rape victims are an untapped* market. *badoom, pish!

I find it absolutely despicable to make light of violent abuse, including sexual abuse, in prison. We should be doing all we can to make our prisons safer for everyone. The fact that many people think it is OK to make and laugh at prison rape jokes sickens me. What would you think if I made rape jokes about your 90 year old grandma? Or your ten year old son? Or your wife? If that is not ok, neither is prison rape of…

I don't think prison rape is OK. But my jokes aren't going to change that. Your sanctimonious bullcrap isn't either.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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How on earth could this app get funding? If it were a male->female app there would have been an outrage about it. Moral issues aside, I can see a lot of libel lawsuits (at least in the UK) springing up because of this app. There are enough rumours in the world as it is, we do not need apps that profit from people rating the opposite sex and spreading rumours about them.

How on earth could this app get funding?

The investors expect it to make more money than they put in.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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post #60

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>Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Not really. Men have had more freedom but less security. Just because you personally like your gender role (as it seems), that doesn't mean other men agree (or agreed in the past). Sure, men were allowed to be employees and women cared for the children at home (though reality was actually a lot more complex than that, but we can accept this c…

You've made a lot of soup out of a small amount of meat. Some quick replies to clear up misunderstandings: I agree that patriarchy is bad for men too. I disagree that it was equally bad for both genders. I disagree that we have reached balance. By "manning up", I don't mean reinforcing gender roles or maintaining gender inequality. I mean that men should, as the relatively privileged parties, not be whiny at either t…

I don't see why past & present inequality justify anything and everything that is bad for men/whites/whatever. Don't you see a difference between e.g. hiring policies that specifically advantage women and objecting to services that are potentially vicious and hurtful specifically to men? (I'm not convinced lulu is the latter, but assume for the moment it is).

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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post #152

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As I said to the previous poster, if you have a shred of evidence that "the feminists" consider this app to be acceptable (not just "less bad"), you should share it now. If you don't, then you might want to pause for a few minutes and seriously ask yourself why you said what you did. Because from my experience, opposing a service like this is a core value of feminism. (It may not be seen as a top priority, but that's…

I think you and duaneb have misunderstood my comment. I do not mean that they will say that it is acceptable to them because of the patriarchy, they will say that it is acceptable to society because of the patriarchy. In other words, they will blame the existence and acceptance of this app on the patriarchy and not the individuals who created it and accept it.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. (I'm not sure that I understand your point, but at least it's not the basic misunderstanding of feminism that I thought it was.)

(This is a reflection of the social influences that feminism labels "the patriarchy", right? Even though it's individual people making choices that implement those social trends. I've never considered the two to be mutually exclusive.)

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not thinking like an entrepreneur. That just means that prison rape victims are an untapped* market. *badoom, pish!

I find it absolutely despicable to make light of violent abuse, including sexual abuse, in prison. We should be doing all we can to make our prisons safer for everyone. The fact that many people think it is OK to make and laugh at prison rape jokes sickens me. What would you think if I made rape jokes about your 90 year old grandma? Or your ten year old son? Or your wife? If that is not ok, neither is prison rape of…

I don't think that this is a very reasonable response - making a joke and caring about something are not mutually exclusive.

Comedians regularly make jokes about some of the most abhorrent things that happen in the world. Racism, pedophilia, murder. Do you think that these comics therefore agree with racism, pedophilia and murder? No, of course not. They're making jokes.

It may not have been funny, and it may not have been appropriate (we're not in a comedy club after all), but it doesn't mean esquilax will be OK with "teachers turning a blind eye on students raping other students in detention for not doing their homework".

Basically, calm down, he made a bad joke, it's not the end of the world.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Wow, it's like everything that I used to fear about the dating world put into one shiny app. Had this been out years ago when I was single, it would've definitely given me a lot of anxiety. Having been happily married for 5 years, all I can say to single folks is that if someone actively rates people on apps/sites like this, they are most likely not the kind of people you want to be with in the long run. As for the s…

Not to mention, female privilege lets them call men "creepers" or "perverts" without question. I've pressed female friends about this and they just answer with "I didnt like the look he gave me" or "we just didnt click." So instead of understanding that most people are not compatible, we're now building a db to slander them based on purely emotional reasoning? If women are using this then it says a lot about the woma…

It's like a bait for the bad ones. Now, if only you could find out which people you knew used the app...

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Does anyone really care? Maybe the young insecure men who have grown up with hash tags and their online persona having some kind of meaning. But anyone with an ounce of confidence wouldn't care less. Women have always gossiped and always will. It's not about the men, it's a way for women to bond over common experiences and shared empathy.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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The real tragedy is that it will drive mate selection further towards those qualities that are most fleeting -- looks and wealth. I will now indulge myself with a chuckle as I think of all those women who will wake up one day years into the future and realize that #Big.Feet = #Cheater and #FatBankroll = #AlwaysAwayOnBusiness.

Looks decline for women, but men start to look "distinguished".

It depends a LOT on what the opposite sexes look for in a partner - men want something young and pretty to impress their friends and not say something too stupid, women want a dominant man who pays for stuff and makes decisions.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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post #168

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Ah, so apparently guys are still good enough to hire. Interesting. Care to share your experiences on what it was like to work there?

> so apparently guys are still good enough to hire. Interesting. I re-read the parent, and nowhere does it say nor imply that the CTO nor the people he hired were male. For all that we know, the site might be built by bimbos scratching one of their own itches. I wouldn't bet on it, of course, but I'm amazed to see that prejudices are so deeply ingrained that: * you read what was absolutely not written; * nobody notic…

The parent is StavrosK, in their profile it says "I'm Stavros Korokithakis.", Stavros being a mans name.

Of course, it could not be true, but I can't see why anyone would bother.

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