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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by adrian_b »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #111
fjsoxjdnwk wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony is the current administration’s posturing against Chinese AI companies forcing something like this is going to actually bolster competitive advantage overseas. That and European companies as well. The landscape is going to change drastically in 5 years once all the data centers are built all over the world. The science behind these models are being worked on IN PUBLIC. The research is not secret. The implem…

> The science behind these models are being worked on IN PUBLIC. The research is not secret. The implementations will all catch up. Only to a limited extent - the US companies stopped sharing research a long time ago, other than Anthropic's interpretability research (which also seems to have dried up?). Interestingly most of the sharing is now coming from the Chinese side, largely DeepSeek. Ziphu/Z.ai (GLM) is also p…

While OpenAI and Anthropic have not provided any useful information for a long time, there still are some research publications from a few US companies, e.g. NVIDIA about its Nemotron models, or Google and IBM about their small LLMs.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by EmbarrassedHelp »

consumer451 wrote: post #28

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47775633 - 67 days ago, 100 comments As mentioned in that thread, Persona as the provider is a bit surprising and problematic. Discord dropped them after user backlash.

Any sort of identity/age verification here is problematic and unacceptable.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by tekchip »

samename wrote: post #153
827a wrote: post #147

Its a very well known fact that all of our geopolitical adversaries have sophisticated fake American ID markets. This doesn't stop any of the most dangerous adversaries from getting access to systems protected by this technology. DeepSeek is going to go buy 20,000 fake IDs for their fake distillation accounts and keep on keeping on. This just hurts normal people, Americans and non-Americans, who might struggle to aut…

Thank you. This is an expansion of surveillance. Most concerning to me is how few people understand government's access to this data. People treat AI like a diary, and the government can request that data at anytime.

Not just the government! techcrunch.com/2026/06/18/texas-government-data-breach-allowed-hackers-to-steal-3-million-drivers-licenses-and-passports/

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by wouldbecouldbe »

azinman2 wrote: post #158
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

> As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. That’s totally unclear. Things are changing fast. No statement from god or potus has come down about the future of LLMs and who can access what. And for what it’s worth, I’m not able to access fable and I’m a US citizen.

That's the implied suggestion from the verification that they can prove to only share it with US citizens

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by jsyang00 »

827a wrote: post #147

Its a very well known fact that all of our geopolitical adversaries have sophisticated fake American ID markets. This doesn't stop any of the most dangerous adversaries from getting access to systems protected by this technology. DeepSeek is going to go buy 20,000 fake IDs for their fake distillation accounts and keep on keeping on. This just hurts normal people, Americans and non-Americans, who might struggle to aut…

> Pointless CYA

They are literally being forced to do this by the government. The counter-ask if for them to self immolate in order to take a principled stand, as access to all their models is banned.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by coldtea »

azinman2 wrote: post #158
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

> As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. That’s totally unclear. Things are changing fast. No statement from god or potus has come down about the future of LLMs and who can access what. And for what it’s worth, I’m not able to access fable and I’m a US citizen.

>That’s totally unclear.

Being unclear is enough for people to steer clear of it...

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by coldtea »

LPisGood wrote: post #166
halJordan wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's almost certainly just bad engineering/bad business. Not to say it wasn't an active choice, I'm sure it was. It just shows how extreme the power imbalance is between end users and big business that they have 0 desire to do things correctly and end users have 0 impact on correcting that thinking.

OpenAI has notoriously terrible engineering. Look no further than the numerous Reddit threads and YouTube videos about people trying to give them money for their services and being denied. Users routinely have to try a number of credit cards, a number of web browsers, a number of devices, and a number of physical locations. I’m not talking about sketchy prepaid cards from weird banks on a VPN in a country the United…

>OpenAI has notoriously terrible engineering.

Wasn't AI supposed to solve this? /s

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by usernamed7 »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #113
usernamed7 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a choice you are free to make, just like you're free to shrug and not use the internet or computers.

eyeroll If you truly had the courage of your convictions you would have gone all in here and told me to stop using electricity.

I haven't told you to do anything, only highlighted that you can choose how to live your life, including not using LLM's.

Believe it or not, some people actually do derive a great deal of value from LLM's and it's also ok if you don't or can't.

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