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Re: Nostr

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Post by t1E9mE7JTRjf »

N-Krause wrote: post #96
goodpoint wrote: post #75

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> I would interpret it as anyone is welcome. ...which is a very much a political statement.

"Welcome" is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone can join, but I am sure as it is also with our real worldwide community, not everyone is welcome or is accepted equally. But the point is, nostr does not intent to judge that. It happens automatically while communicating. Nostr is just the means to communicate.

Welcome in this context means you can use it the same as anyone. There is no everyone, nostr is just tech.

Re: Nostr

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Post by anon1395 »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #144
anon1395 wrote: post #122

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Why do you think i'm in the USA...? I am in the UK and it is impossible to buy bitcoin without regulations.

With "impossible" you mean you can't use Tor Browser and fire up Robosats to buy Bitcoin via Revolut or Wise?

What if I need to buy something on Coinbase Commerce?

Re: Nostr

#173

Post by littlecranky67 »

nunobrito wrote: post #155
littlecranky67 wrote: post #80

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Your link is from 2022 - blinded paths are now here in lightning. Async- and trampoline payments are around the corner. The article is heavily outdated. I am involved in Lightning and run my own node - it is pretty much private enough for all sorts of micro payments for content creators. Not private enough for organized crime to move large sums, agreed. You also forget to mention the 51% attack monero recently suffer…

By all means, here is a study from 2024 documenting the hard facts about lack of privacy and lack of resiliency: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030859612... That 51% attack on Monero never happened, despite much noise and headlines saying initially otherwise. You can verify this for yourself.

The paper does not state what you make it out to be (it sees theoretical privacy-lowering attacks, but not as you state it "lack of privacy"). Practical attacks are not even proven.

And it - too - does not look into trampoline payments. Trampoline payments are a new feature that are not yet in a BOLT standard, but tried and tested in beta and used i.e. by Phoenix Wallet or Electrum.

Re: Nostr

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Post by t1E9mE7JTRjf »

keiferski wrote: post #65
t1E9mE7JTRjf wrote: post #52

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That's more or less how nostr works, except instead of websites there are notes (a generic type which can be anything - including website content), and instead of servers there are 'relays'.

Yeah the more I read about it, the more it does sound somewhat similar to what I was proposing. However, the copywriting there is not in this vein at all. IMO the metaphor of personal websites is a simple, universal one that most people can understand. Nostr seems unintelligible to anyone that isn't pretty technical.

That's for sure how it is right now. A mix of early adopter techy types. In this case (nostr.com) it's just a website, and not actually apart of nostr. In the same way that weather.com isn't a spokesperson for the weather

Re: Nostr

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Post by nunobrito »

staticelf wrote: post #129
stonogo wrote: post #55

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Happy to help. Step 1: In 2023, notice a crypto spam post on Mastodon with a weird account name. Step 2: Look up what could have made that post, which was bridged from some other service. Step 3: Set up a key, grab a client (I used a web client that deployed to Netlify's free tier). Step 4: Follow some howtos, add relays, follow some accounts that repeat other accounts, try to figure out how discovery works. Step 5:…

Sweden has a website called "dumpen.se" which tricks and publishes pedophile that are trying to abuse children. The leftist media hates this website because they are doing an effective job. They are calling them all kinds of things. When people are effective in tracking or publishing about pedos, there are always a lot of people saying you are the problem, not the pedos. I wonder why. There are a lot of pedos out the…

Very much unrelated to NOSTR which is a transparent network with a Web Of Trust enabled as default for users.

It is a grave and unfair accusation to associate NOSTR with such nefarious activities, that was the reason why so many protested against that labelling.

Re: Nostr

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Post by t1E9mE7JTRjf »

anon1395 wrote: post #122
t1E9mE7JTRjf wrote: post #47

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There is a world outside of USA, and there is even a world within it too - where you can just do things.

Why do you think i'm in the USA...? I am in the UK and it is impossible to buy bitcoin without regulations.

I recommend hodlhodl.

Re: Nostr

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Post by nunobrito »

irusensei wrote: post #165
akimbostrawman wrote: post #41

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Lightning is not anywhere near as private as monero. It's a band aid at best. If it was actually private it would get banned and suppressed like monero.

Then let’s write a nip and create a Nostr client that uses monero. What are you waiting for?

Already here: https://github.com/moStard-org/moStard

Re: Nostr

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Post by littlecranky67 »

nunobrito wrote: post #57
littlecranky67 wrote: post #28

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It is noteworthy that zapps are based on lightning (which is Layer-2 for bitcoin), and similar in privacy as monero (and instantaneous).

It nowhere similar to Monero in privacy, because it was never private to begin with. Please read: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/state-of-bitcoin-light... And attention that Monero isn't the only privacy coin in town, but it is the one that is without doubt more attacked by governments due to its privacy. You don't see the same treatment for neither LN nor bitcoin, instead you see governments supporting it. Th…

You do not even acknowledge that monero payments take minutes (plus waiting for X confirmations) up to hours to finally settle. Lightning payments are instantenous, and take seconds (!). While moneros privacy might be higher that lightning, it is completely unusuable as a web micro-payment network.

Re: Nostr

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Post by littlecranky67 »

anon1395 wrote: post #172
littlecranky67 wrote: post #144

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With "impossible" you mean you can't use Tor Browser and fire up Robosats to buy Bitcoin via Revolut or Wise?

What if I need to buy something on Coinbase Commerce?

What has that todo with anyhting? For Nostr you need bitcoin (lightning) and there is plenty of ways to acquire/buy it anywhere in the world. No need to limit yourself to coinbase.

P.S: anon1395 is likely a new, mere troll account. Well played.

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