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Re: Nostr

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Post by staticelf »

numpad0 wrote: post #27
nunobrito wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That statement is wrong at best scenario and fake at worst. I'm a long time user of NOSTR. When you enter the network through any of the main clients you will only see curated topics (trending). The WoT assures that the best content comes up.

Yeah, when a layperson says $SOCIAL_MEDIA is full of child pornography , it often just means legal anime content that would be on advertisements everywhere in Tokyo, especially anime contents that are LESS explicitly sexualized . This happens because Japan always has disproportionately massive online presence with significantly better democratized attention engineering, and so content selections naturally mimic a cro…

1. I am not a layperson. I used nostr while it was still under active development and when it only had a few NIPs finished.

2. I have been to Japan several times, I know the difference between anime/hentai/lolita and stuff like that. This is not what I was experiencing.

3. I have nothing against pornography in general.

The issue is that when people bring up shit like this, we are not taken seriously and this hurts projects like nostr. It will never reach momentum if no steps are taken to prevent illegal material and dark shit like CP.

Calling me a liar makes me believe that you are intentionally are downplaying the experiences I and others have, which is helping pedophiles and similar people share their illegal content freely and without consequences. Why I do not know and you should seriously think about it and stop.

Re: Nostr

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Post by anon1395 »

t1E9mE7JTRjf wrote: post #47
anon1395 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitcoin is regulated as hell

There is a world outside of USA, and there is even a world within it too - where you can just do things.

Why do you think i'm in the USA...? I am in the UK and it is impossible to buy bitcoin without regulations.

Re: Nostr

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Post by sebastix »

dbushell wrote: post #34

A big misconception I've seen is the assumption that Nostr relays are federated and share messages between one another. This is not how it works. So if you're building a "Twitter clone" the client app must search multiple relays and post to multiple relays. If clients are not using a relay in common they cannot see one another. The end result is a bad experience for both user and developer. Using a single relay is ce…

Relays can federate. The point is that Nostr as a protocol is saying nothing about this and does not care either.

I'm running an indexer (a relay) which federates with other relay indexers. Similar how activitypub relays work. Any client can connect to indexer to help bootstrapping and find metadata around events. There are many ways to discover stuff from clients even without being connected to the same relay.

Re: Nostr

#124

Post by Klaster_1 »

thrownawaysz wrote: post #58

>apolitical communication commons Some people say that labeling yourself apolitical is 1, a polticial statement 2, a privilege itself which puts you into a certain socio-political position

This is exactly what struck my eye. As someone from RU, I came to strongly identify "apolitical" with silent status quo supporters. Under an authoritarian regime, that means prosecuting people and lack of freedom of speech. Nostr? They'll just declare hosting a relay illegal and criminalize use, like they already did for other services.

Re: Nostr

#125

Post by digitalbase »

sak5sk wrote: post #112

Some nostr apps to demonstrate what it's capable of: https://www.openux.app/ - Mobbin alternative https://kinostr.com/ - movies with chat room https://zap.stream/ - live streaming similar to Twitch https://dtan.xyz/ - torrents https://zapstore.dev/ - permissionless app store https://nostrnests.com/ - audio room chats https://zapmeacoffee.com/ - like buy me a coffee

I've been working on a Quora/StackOverflow alternative (on top of Nostr).

https://asknostr.site/

I hope this demonstrates how a distributed social protocol can solve many use cases and the advantage to the end-user:

- do not get rugpulled by (VC backed) companies that own your data

- receive zaps/money by contributing

- data is truely available to everyone (but signed by author)

Re: Nostr

#126

Post by numpad0 »

staticelf wrote: post #121
numpad0 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, when a layperson says $SOCIAL_MEDIA is full of child pornography , it often just means legal anime content that would be on advertisements everywhere in Tokyo, especially anime contents that are LESS explicitly sexualized . This happens because Japan always has disproportionately massive online presence with significantly better democratized attention engineering, and so content selections naturally mimic a cro…

1. I am not a layperson. I used nostr while it was still under active development and when it only had a few NIPs finished. 2. I have been to Japan several times, I know the difference between anime/hentai/lolita and stuff like that. This is not what I was experiencing. 3. I have nothing against pornography in general. The issue is that when people bring up shit like this, we are not taken seriously and this hurts pr…

- The smaller group says they see TONS of $thing,

- the larger group says they see NONE of $thing,

- both are looking at the EXACT same thing.

-> The disagreement is in the definition of $thing.

It can't get clearer. How else would you explain it? Either you're lying(I guess not), or your definition is way off, or those secret underground organizations made some mistake and their secret Facebook group illegal content leaked out(no such thing on Nostr). By far the most likely scenario is that you're grouping from traffic cones to boxes of oranges to parrots in a forest into the exact same category of offensive contents by standards that nobody else could even understand.

Re: Nostr

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Post by Klaster_1 »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #106
t1E9mE7JTRjf wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you miss the point. On Nostr because technology is apolitical, you can be anything you want - political or not. A draw for some is exactly that; if they've been de-platformed elsewhere for political views, on nostr that can't happen.

I have never truly seen anyone deplatformed over political views. In the end they were always deplatformed for a lack of decency.

This is authoritarian regime bread and butter. Create barriers that only right people can surmount, ban platforms where prominent opponents publish their media, block sources of income or just outright ban websites and newspapers and TG channels.

Re: Nostr

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Post by sebastix »

lukaslukas wrote: post #17

I don't understand. Can someone explain it to me from a technical/IT perspective? Is it like HTTP or JSON, or like XMPP...? "An open protocol with a chance of working" = ?huh? "Nostr doesn't subscribe to political ideals of "free speech"" = ???huh? "BEEP BOOP" ???wtf?? Please don't explain technical things as if you were talking to children. Explain them as if you were talking to a colleague sitting next to you. Talk…

You can have a look at https://how-nostr-works.pages.dev/#/pathological which is also mentioned on the website somehere quite hidden

Re: Nostr

#129

Post by staticelf »

stonogo wrote: post #55
nunobrito wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either of them. I can't even fathom how this would be your first time experience there, other people here on this topic confirm that it doesn't happen. If you feel that is wrong, please describe the steps to replicate such situation.

Happy to help. Step 1: In 2023, notice a crypto spam post on Mastodon with a weird account name. Step 2: Look up what could have made that post, which was bridged from some other service. Step 3: Set up a key, grab a client (I used a web client that deployed to Netlify's free tier). Step 4: Follow some howtos, add relays, follow some accounts that repeat other accounts, try to figure out how discovery works. Step 5:…

Sweden has a website called "dumpen.se" which tricks and publishes pedophile that are trying to abuse children.

The leftist media hates this website because they are doing an effective job. They are calling them all kinds of things.

When people are effective in tracking or publishing about pedos, there are always a lot of people saying you are the problem, not the pedos. I wonder why. There are a lot of pedos out there (just look at dumpens work it's kinda obvious) and they are of course using services that are anonymized and decentralized like any other.

Usually they are also very active online and attack people that try to cut their illegal actions online. Just look at my original post, it is downvoted. I just wanted some kind of action towards cutting pedo content and it is frowned upon by these people.

Re: Nostr

#130

Post by digitalbase »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #7

Last time I tried navigating the Nostr ecosystem I found their Twitter-equivalent platform and it was full of people posting about cryptocurrencies and other topics that weren't of particular interest to me. Are there any major figures of interest primarily participating on any Nostr platform? Or is there any kind of uniquely interesting content that is being primarily produced and shared on Nostr?

As a 1 year nostr user i can relate to this sentiment. Most conversations today are either about crypto or about (building) nostr.

My guess is that the better the network becomes the more that specific content will take a backseat

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