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Re: Nostr

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Post by numpad0 »

BoorishBears wrote: post #13
photios wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's quite the bold faced lie. I've been on nostr for years and it's been pretty friendly and never offensive.

3 people have shared this experience in the thread. Is there a fundamental reason this wouldn't be true? Isn't it a place where people can anonymously share multimedia with minimal moderation? In my experience even the most toy application exposed to the wider internet will face this issue.

It's euphemism for anime. Listening to these draw lines between porn and not-porn ever clearer, which users interpret that inside the line is free-for-all, and anime wins and obliterates everything even harder after the fix is implemented or strengthened.

These people come back fuming hot with more derogatory, still indirect, descriptions, and cycle repeats. This has been a "problem" for social media for almost as long as I've been online.

Re: Nostr

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Post by t1E9mE7JTRjf »

keiferski wrote: post #26

Something I don’t quite get about these new social networks that are clearly aimed at technical people: my model of a truly decentralized social network is more like a network of privately hosted personal websites, à la the original web. Not yet another platform I need to make an account to interact on separately. Have there been any attempts to make more of a “network” that incentivizes operating personal websites b…

That's more or less how nostr works, except instead of websites there are notes (a generic type which can be anything - including website content), and instead of servers there are 'relays'.

Re: Nostr

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Post by dewey »

I've tried to use it many times, through Damos on iOS, but it's littered with dead and abandoned projects and an alternative UI that worked one day, will just be gone later.

In the end the content I was seeing there was almost exclusively about Nostr and Crypto so it wasn't that interested to keep using it.

Re: Nostr

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Post by internet_points »

camillomiller wrote: post #5

I find open protocols the most naive endeavour in tech nowadays. The reason why social media protocols work is because the incentive is to have them siloed, controlled, and artificially convincing people through algorithmic suggestions that posting what they had for lunch is somewhat interesting. These protocols seem to think that people actually want an alternative to what Instagram, Facebook, X etc. give them. They…

even nostr seems to want bubbles, under Why not just use Mastodon/Fediverse? they write:

> The most interesting feature of Mastodon is that by its nature it creates communities with shared values that grow in each of its servers. Or, should I say, that should be a feature if it actually worked like that. In fact these are not really communities, but a mashup of users that may share some interests among each other, but also have other interests and those other interests end up polluting the supposed "community" with things that do not interest the other users.

ie. they're complaining that federated communities are too diverse and multi-faceted, instead of being divided into nice little laser-focused grids of shared interests

Re: Nostr

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Post by stonogo »

nunobrito wrote: post #11
stonogo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had almost exactly the same experience and lost interest for the same reason. Am I wrong or fake?

Either of them. I can't even fathom how this would be your first time experience there, other people here on this topic confirm that it doesn't happen. If you feel that is wrong, please describe the steps to replicate such situation.

Happy to help.

Step 1: In 2023, notice a crypto spam post on Mastodon with a weird account name.

Step 2: Look up what could have made that post, which was bridged from some other service.

Step 3: Set up a key, grab a client (I used a web client that deployed to Netlify's free tier).

Step 4: Follow some howtos, add relays, follow some accounts that repeat other accounts, try to figure out how discovery works.

Step 5: Start seeing really disturbing content.

Step 6: Delete all this stuff, and write it off in the same bucket as Freenet.

Step 7: Wait some years.

Step 8: Get called a liar on a web forum.

Re: Nostr

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Post by littlecranky67 »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #40
keiferski wrote: post #26

Something I don’t quite get about these new social networks that are clearly aimed at technical people: my model of a truly decentralized social network is more like a network of privately hosted personal websites, à la the original web. Not yet another platform I need to make an account to interact on separately. Have there been any attempts to make more of a “network” that incentivizes operating personal websites b…

> more like a network of privately hosted personal websites Can't monetize that.

You can zapp on nostr - lightning based payments. There were efforts to bring micro payments to the regular Web, but in the end it failed because in the traditional finance world, you can't just send 2cents to someone on the other side of the world - because intermediaeries will charge you 50cents of fees for that.

Re: Nostr

#57

Post by nunobrito »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #28
nunobrito wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone there is a bitcoin boomer. You'll find plenty of monero users and things that are a bit more serious than that.

It is noteworthy that zapps are based on lightning (which is Layer-2 for bitcoin), and similar in privacy as monero (and instantaneous).

It nowhere similar to Monero in privacy, because it was never private to begin with. Please read: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/state-of-bitcoin-light...

And attention that Monero isn't the only privacy coin in town, but it is the one that is without doubt more attacked by governments due to its privacy. You don't see the same treatment for neither LN nor bitcoin, instead you see governments supporting it. There is a big difference.

Re: Nostr

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Post by thrownawaysz »

>apolitical communication commons

Some people say that labeling yourself apolitical is 1, a polticial statement 2, a privilege itself which puts you into a certain socio-political position

Re: Nostr

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Post by vincnetas »

Tepix wrote: post #29

Even if you don't use Nostr as a microblogging social network, it can provide a useful layer. For example Trystero https://oxism.com/trystero (MIT licensed) can use it to establish P2P WebRTC connections without requiring a central server.

wow this is amazing. was thinking about whipping something similar for my own project but glad that someone had same problem before. saved me some time.

Re: Nostr

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Post by littlecranky67 »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #36
littlecranky67 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nostr doesn't have an "algorithm" that tries to find posts that you engage with. You should follow your own list of people, and then you will see their content. There are some clients trying to be more smart, though. The "algorithm" in any social media is a blessing and a curse. Nostr shifts the responsibility of what to show to the clients.

Right, and I'm asking if there any interesting figures primarily using this platform to share interesting content because I don't know of any, and I didn't find any niches that were best served by this platform. In the past, the way that I would typically get to know people online was either through niche topic-specific forums or IRC channels. Then eventually if we got to know each other well enough, we would connect…

Nostr supports #hashtags just as twitter.
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