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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by dboreham » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:49 PM UTC

mdaniel wrote: post #53

kstrauser wrote: post #41

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I prefer Forgejo, but both it and Gitea support actions like GitHub's. You can have a nice CI/CD pipeline that runs 100% in-house, for free. I adore it for personal projects.

> Gitea support actions like GitHub's Citation needed. nektos/act is for sure not "like GitHub's"

We've run Gitea actions (and contributed here and there) for a couple of years, since-by-side with Github. We host in containers on the Gitea side so there are some marginal differences as to what can be run in a job, but our experience has been very positive.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by tonyhart7 » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:49 PM UTC

yoran wrote: post #22

reversengineer wrote: post #17

GitLab is like, really good. No need to put your codebase in the "cloud."

I feel like all new AI tools only integrate with GitHub though, like Claude Code. We're actually thinking of moving from GitLab to GitHub, just for this reason.

same reason why we didn't leave github yet

most SaaS tools only have github integration which is sucks

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by icy » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:50 PM UTC

smcin wrote: post #148

icy wrote: post #13

Yeah, GitHub is cooked. Now's a good time to consider migrating to alternative forges like Tangled ( https://tangled.sh ; bit of a shameless plug, I'll admit. I'm the co-founder). We've got a more advanced PR flow, jujutsu change-id support and we just launched our in-house CI! https://blog.tangled.sh/ci Long-term, we aim to be the new social coding platform, collectively built in the open.

You say "forge" and stuff like "collectively built in the open"? Do you consider the repos "public", "private" or what? You have a very short privacy policy [ https://tangled.sh/privacy ], but no guarantees of AI-bot-scraping protection. What if anything is your users' expectation of privacy of their repos against third parties, including malicious ones? Really you need to set that out clearly in your privacy policy.

Not sure I understand your first comment. Repositories are currently public only since we’re built on the AT Protocol, which doesn’t yet have private data (in the works!).

Thanks for the feedback re: the privacy policy. It’s still actively being improved and we take a lot of effort to protect against AI scrapers. I’ll update the policy verbiage to include that.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by iamdamian » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:50 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #161

taxborn wrote: post #105

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Additionally there is Codeburg/Forgejo, and for the atproto-enjoyers, tangled.sh is a new face that feels like it could be good.

And gitea (originally a Forgejo fork).

> And gitea (originally a Forgejo fork).

I don't think this is right. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitea#Forgejo_fork.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by klabb3 » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:50 PM UTC

dcchambers wrote: post #7

> GitHub moving into Core AI team On the one hand, this probably means it gets the funding it needs to keep going strong. On the other hand, I'm worried that this means that GitHub is going to focus exclusively on building AI features while the core product becomes stale/abandoned.

> while the core product becomes stale/abandoned

Im more concerned about random breakages. When you have org pressure to add features rapidly shit breaks. Stale would be best case scenario.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by pfisch » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:51 PM UTC

pbiggar wrote: post #140

pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Not just that, but Microsoft's reputation is in the process of taking a nose dive over its human rights record https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/06/microsoft-isra...

Nobody even knows about this, no one thinks "Microsoft, hell no, they are a key player in the gaza conflict."

No one really associates human rights with Microsoft's reputation. That is the domain of Palantir, Meta, etc.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by BizarroLand » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:52 PM UTC

throwaway290 wrote: post #156

pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Wait Microsoft was cool at some point?

Windows 7 was pretty cool, and XP was practically unbeatable despite its many many flaws.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by tedivm » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:52 PM UTC

hardwaregeek wrote: post #83

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #78

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Are there any improvements to be done to Git? It seems like kind of a solved problem, like word processors or spreadsheets… most “improvements” to those are diminishing returns. I don't mean to sounds like an MS apologist, btw. I fully predicted and hoped for an exodus from Github to GitLab or something back when it got acquired — I'm from the Microsux generation.

They could add stacked diffs, large monorepo features (allow user to view a slice of a repo), better submodule support (why can’t I PR multiple repos at once?). A good desktop app that is faster than the slow web client.

The current desktop client is missing support for a bunch of important things too, like signing commits.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by tonyhart7 » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:52 PM UTC

AlexandrB wrote: post #87

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #31

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Github may have more value as the largest software training corpus in the world than as a paid VCS, and Microsoft gets to uniquely utilize that as they will have non rate limited internal APIs and/or dumps to train on.

I assume they already had those APIs - Github was already owned by Microsoft. By prioritizing AI feature over the core experience it's possible that Github stops being the largest software training corpus in the future.

I assume they would make other major company to have an github integration out of the box

so it would be feeding off itself from "vibe coder" an have an singularity generated corpus around AI tooling

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by owebmaster » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 5:53 PM UTC

riffraff wrote: post #127

waihtis wrote: post #104

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You really think Microsoft has been ”cool” for the past decade or so? First the rampant spyware, then they gradually wreck every single piece of software into unusable buggy AI-slop-mess just to play the trashy MBA valuation games. I still hold nostalgic value for the old OSes (say up to XP/7) but everything after has been nothing but maximal profit extraction. Dont get me started on Azure

Not OP, but I do. The '90s/00s era of people hating on M$ and picturing them as the Borg had left room to the 10s/20s of MS being "friendly" and releasing open source and free things (typescript, vs code, core.net, wsl, work on python etc) and not completely screwing up acquisitions like GitHub or Mojang. Windows became adware, and office became some crappy online thing, but _microsoft_ had became nicer and gained go…

They didn't become cool, some people just let themselves get fooled by what they were offering for free.