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Auditors?
yes auditors from a security audit
you could barely convince your auditors that using github was okay? well, my opinion of security audits is reaffirmed
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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
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Are there any improvements to be done to Git? It seems like kind of a solved problem, like word processors or spreadsheets… most “improvements” to those are diminishing returns. I don't mean to sounds like an MS apologist, btw. I fully predicted and hoped for an exodus from Github to GitLab or something back when it got acquired — I'm from the Microsux generation.
They could add stacked diffs, large monorepo features (allow user to view a slice of a repo), better submodule support (why can’t I PR multiple repos at once?). A good desktop app that is faster than the slow web client.
> large monorepo features (allow user to view a slice of a repo)
I am reminded of this discussion between fb devs and git devs from 13 yrs ago:
https://public-inbox.org/git/CB5074CF.3AD7A%25joshua.redston...
git has definitely made improvements since that thread, e.g.:
https://graphite.dev/guides/git-monorepo#tools-and-strategie...
but it could still be better for the truly gargantuan of code bases. Might not be worth it? Idk. Maybe with llm generated code churn, suddenly it becomes worth it? haha.
Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
#143I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…
Apple and Microsoft seem very different companies. Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will even though they seem to regard the Open Source community with total ambivalence at best.
Microsoft is the Walmart of operating system providers, that happened to buy a popular Git hosting site and briefly made noises that seemed not awful.
In terms of coolness, Microsoft peaked right around the time they were hiring the cast of Friends to promote their OS.
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I see more people jump for Codeberg these days.
Or even better, claim full sovereignty (again) and install Forgejo ( https://forgejo.org/ ) on your own hardware. You'll get the same experience as Codeberg, because Codeberg is in fact running on Forgejo
People aren't on these hosted platforms only for the git experience, they are for the social aspects and discoverability too.
Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
#145GitLab is like, really good. No need to put your codebase in the "cloud."
Gitlab is like the SAP of git, something for bloated big corporations. I've never seen a single FOSS repo there.
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/ - Freedesktop which is the org for many projects such as Wayland uses gitlab
https://gitlab.gnome.org/ - GNOME uses Gitlab
https://gitlab.com/kicad/ - KiCad uses Gitlab
Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
#146I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…
What about Wine? Is that still a thing? Visual Studio Code seems to be their big open source push, besides GitHub. Everyone uses it, and most development environments and UX are based on it. Used to be Atom, I remember.
I don't understand how VS Code is an "open source push". It's technically open source, but open source doesn't seem to be strategically important to it.
Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
#147Lots of comments here remind me of the time GitHub was purchased by Microsoft. It would be the dead of GitHub. While in fact it got better: GitHub Actions (pretty neat CI system) happend under Microsoft. Free private repos happend under Microsoft. Now this time it could be different. But last time wasn't that bad imho.
Has there been any reports whether GitHub actually makes any money?
Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
#148Yeah, GitHub is cooked. Now's a good time to consider migrating to alternative forges like Tangled ( https://tangled.sh ; bit of a shameless plug, I'll admit. I'm the co-founder). We've got a more advanced PR flow, jujutsu change-id support and we just launched our in-house CI! https://blog.tangled.sh/ci Long-term, we aim to be the new social coding platform, collectively built in the open.
You say "forge" and stuff like "collectively built in the open"?
Do you consider the repos "public", "private" or what?
You have a very short privacy policy [https://tangled.sh/privacy], but no guarantees of AI-bot-scraping protection. What if anything is your users' expectation of privacy of their repos against third parties, including malicious ones? Really you need to set that out clearly in your privacy policy.
Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
#149GitLab is like, really good. No need to put your codebase in the "cloud."
I feel like all new AI tools only integrate with GitHub though, like Claude Code. We're actually thinking of moving from GitLab to GitHub, just for this reason.
In some industries, all the tools you actually need (say, MISRA checking) all work with GitLab out of the box.
Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
#150Surprised it took this long. I am working with Github sales team on straightening out our Github organization at my new job and it was weird to get a Zoom meeting invite from a company that has been part of Microsoft for nearly 10 years
Would probably help if Teams wasn't such a clusterfuck. God help you if your other user is in a sovereign microsoft cloud on their desktop client.