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American company, taking off from an American airport with mostly American passengers. The only thing about this flight that wasn’t American is the destination…
Canadian ATC.
Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
What? 346 people died in the two 737 MAX crashes in 2019 and 2020, but I guess three people getting injured is a lot more major since it happened in the country next door to the only country that counts.
I think they mean in the US specifically
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
What? 346 people died in the two 737 MAX crashes in 2019 and 2020, but I guess three people getting injured is a lot more major since it happened in the country next door to the only country that counts.
I think they mean in the US specifically
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True but I have a feeling it might be designed to rip off in this situation. I'm more surprised the wing rupture didn't cause a fire/explosion because this is where most of the fuel is stored.
Planes typically land with little fuel left (obviously enough for emergencies etc but they are practically empty, it's safer and more efficient)
If an aircraft is anticipated to land with fuel for 30 minutes or less they must make a mayday call, and there's an incident report to fill in.
Yes they want to land with as little fuel as possible, but regulations require them to carry more because we know what happens when you let airlines carry less.
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#176I've not seen any video of the crash. Usually, when there's a crash, dash cam or other amatuer video caught it. Which leads to my repeated bafflement as to why there are no video cameras constantly pointed at flight ops at the airport. If every 7-11 can have a security cam recording hi-def 24/7, why can't a couple of these be mounted in the tower pointed at the tarmac?
Seems like it crashed pretty far away from any residential areas
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What I'm not quite convinced of is that it is the regulation that keeps the airlines following the manufacturers' specifications. I see what happens to stock prices when these companies screw up and they lose a lot more money to that than they ever to do fines from regulators. Are the regulations actually doing much here or are they just repeating what the airlines would do anyway because they have a massive incentiv…
I would think the whole Boeing saga would disabuse you of that notion. Boeing put the bean counters in charge because it made their stock price go up . Of course, it goes up until the corners you cut to juice short term profitability cause something catastrophic to happen, like the multiple 787-max crashes, the door plug blowout, etc. By the time the bad stuff happens, the original decision makers are usually drinkin…
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#179I've not seen any video of the crash. Usually, when there's a crash, dash cam or other amatuer video caught it. Which leads to my repeated bafflement as to why there are no video cameras constantly pointed at flight ops at the airport. If every 7-11 can have a security cam recording hi-def 24/7, why can't a couple of these be mounted in the tower pointed at the tarmac?
It came down really, really hard, gear collapsed asymmetrically it seems, causing it to roll to the side and sheer one wing off then start rolling.
And FWIW, the conditions of the runway were, by all reports, excellent. It was considered "dry" conditions.
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I’m truly sick and tired of how unsafe flying in the US has become.
We live in the safest era of commercial airline travel in history. The rate of serious aircraft accidents is so low that safety researchers almost don't have real life incidents to study for new issues to fix. That is why the recent few incidents seem like such an anomaly.
Certain things still need to be improved of course, and the DCA crash brings to attention ATC staffing, etc. But to say that you're sick and tired of aircraft incidents like they're happening every month is a bit ridiculous.