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Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Sad you didn't see Linux as a better alternative to OSX. I credit it with making me at least 10% more productive over the twenty years I've used it, partly because it is stable and fast, but mostly because it isn't trying to sell me stuff while I work.

My experience is the opposite. I spent 15 years on Linux desktops until finally switching to Windows for the sake of my producivity. I've seen promoted links in Win10/11, but never anything that harmed my productivity. Most importantly, the OS just fades into the background. I never think about it. Linux required almost-daily googling and opening up a terminal to fix or change something. It became maddening eventuall…

I've had the same experience. Linux just requires too much babysitting for me, while Windows 11 just works. I haven't had any major problems nor any issues with my productivity.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Try opening help or press F1 with the desktop in focus. This normally opens Edge.

Don’t ever hit the help menu. So the problem is that MS opens help in it’s own browser? That complaint seems disingenuous at best.

Except edge then opens and presents you with some message about setting it to the default browser (which a lot of people will just click ok to make it go away)

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Wasn’t this breaking the law the last time? I remember it was calls to split Microsoft into separate companies, one for the operating system and one for the internet divisions. Looks like it’s time now. Last time Microsoft had the default web browser they were horrible stewards of the web. I’ll never forget them delaying supporting PNG.

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Microsoft Edge is a privacy nightmare. They have buried dozens of data-collection settings in so many menus under so many different names and categories it's insane. You literally need a book to know which settings to turn off, and even then they keep adding new settings at a very high rate hidden in "security updates"

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Microsoft is weird. People where pretty happy about Edge initially and Microsoft fail to capitalize on that. Why not just create a good browser, bundle it Windows, ensure it has excellent privacy features and if people use it then great, if not, to bad. I really fail to see Microsofts end goal here. They don't need people to use Edge, they don't need to spy on people... So why do they feel like they must?

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Looks like they really learned a lot from that $613M EU fine. I hope they double it next time. How much exactly do they make from forcing IE down users throats? Apparently enough to justify this behavior given the past penalties, just mind blowing that they’re able to continue to do this and just pay fines. You’d think there’d be more backlash at the board level to this type of behavior.

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I used to be ambivalent about Edge. It actually has some nice integrated features I would normally need (slow) addons for, and better integration in Windows features (like better DRM for video streaming). I even used it in linux some. ...But I just recently tested it on a brand new Windows desktop, and I can't believe how slow and spammy it feels out-of-the-box compared to Thorium/Chromite now.

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Windows continuously monitors what browsers users have installed. If you uninstall Chrome, it immediately tries to make Edge the default browser.

And it never respects my wishes for a default browser. Any OS embedded help link will open Edge, wasting me time, memory and screen space.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I gave my old parents the latest hand-me-up laptop and installed ubutntu on it because of windows 11. The install process and default configuration is so user hostile to someone that "just needs to use chrome". My niece & nephew have only known ChromeOS/iOS/Android. They will never use windows until a college course requires some specific software, or they get a desk job. I think they will for sure eventually "learn…

Ubuntu is now bundling advertisements for their paid services in apt upgrade output and the GUI software sources manager, in packages which cannot be uninstalled because they're hard dependencies of the `ubuntu-desktop` metapackage. Plus they've replaced Firefox with a package which installs a Snap, which loads so slowly they added a "snap opened" notification.

This non-sense is everywhere in Ubuntu, out the box, not limited to Snap, I get " is ready" when it is raised after launching - wtf is this? Opening a browser, or text editor, I don't know who is responsible, Ubuntu or Gnome or it's some nasty default?

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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If this is an honest question, then Microsoft's answer is that you use Intune to push the Chrome & Edge settings (via the same policy node, since they're the same engine, they just report their spying to different corporations) and import an ADMX for Firefox policy. That's two browsers worth of policy that you're supporting, but it actually handles three bits of software.

This doesn't answer my question... If an admin does not want their users using Edge, is there an actual way to configure the default browser that doesn't end up opening links and such in Edge?

Didn't realise that was what you were getting at. In short, no, you cannot stop deep-links for Edge from opening in Edge.
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