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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by eptcyka »

drozycki wrote: post #97
the_gipsy wrote: post #88

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Declarative blocking is the weakest, it barely removes the simplest ads. uBlock doesn't exist for iOS because it is made impossible by apple, their extension API is not a "full" API.

I haven’t seen ads on mobile Safari for as long as I can remember. Whether you choose to believe that is up to you. Can you point to an example where an extension like AdGuard would let an ad slip through? Precompiled declarative blocking is more performant and power efficient than running a content script in a JS VM at page load, which matters on a CPU and battery constrained device. I was responding to a comment cl…

I see ads on Safari on my iOS device all the time, whether you choose to believe that is up to you.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by yoavm »

jokoon wrote: post #168

Funny, I realized 30min ago I could not install reddit enhancement suite on firefox android.

You can install whatever you want already, it just takes a little longer and requires Beta or Nightly (both very stable)

https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extensio... https://www.ghacks.net/2022/10/20/firefox-beta-for-android-n...

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by [deleted] »

Gud wrote: post #131
veave wrote: post #120

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Most of Firefox's publicity is based on the fact that they are "on your side". That means that they are held to a much higher standard. Pretending to be on the side of the user and then screwing users up over and over seems like wanting their cake and eating it too? It's funny because, you know, I expect chrome to screw me over while I expect firefox not to screw me over but chrome has screwed me over fewer times tha…

How exactly has Firefox “screwed you over”? I’ve used Firefox since it was called Phoenix… although I don’t like the governance of the project, I would hardly say I’ve been screwed over. Firefox has been an amazing product since day one. Meanwhile, Chrome has literally been developed to probe your ass for data they can sell to advertisers.

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by solarkraft »

godelski wrote: post #163
batrat wrote: post #122

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>behind Samsung fucking Internet Supports adblock (addons) and shows tabs on top just like desktop so it's easy to switch, dark mode for all websites, etc. It's relative fast and lots of options. I use FF with no addons for some websites.

> shows tabs on top just like desktop Honestly, I hate this on the phone. But I get it. I had that initial cognitive disruption when FF did this. But once that was gone (idk, like 30 minutes?) I realized it was a lot nicer because I could actually reach the address bar and tabs without needing to stretch my hand. Or if I have a bigger phone, use a second hand. I mean there's a reason navigation buttons on the phones…

I don't mind cognitive disruption at all, as long as I'm getting something better. While the mobile switcher scales much better (how many can the desktop tab bar hold, like ten?), it can take a while to open and sometimes loses your scroll position or puts a tab in a random place in the list. The previews are also so large that it's hard to get an overview. This can make it much slower to switch tabs than on desktop.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by probably_wrong »

asu_thomas wrote: post #108
Dalewyn wrote: post #87

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>It's popular to hate on Firefox, I don't hate Firefox, I hate Mozilla.

Why?

I believe that the Mozilla execs have no faith in Firefox and instead are using whatever branding remains to position themselves as champions of digital rights.

And I mean sure, it's not a bad goal, but they are letting Firefox die in the process. And once you lost your place at the standards negotiating table, then what? They already capitulated when Google decided that browsers needed DRM, and I don't see them stopping WEI either.

I don't need yet another VPN. I need a strong browser to rival Chrome.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by [deleted] »

godelski wrote: post #144
veave wrote: post #137

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Last time it was 2 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36077360 In that thread there are a few more examples, most of them somewhat recent: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36077683

I have never seen these myself, being on FF for most of it's life, but I also fail to see how these "screw you over." Oh my god an ad! I better instead use a browser that has a built in keylogger and created the ad based internet! That'll show those assholes!

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

solarkraft wrote: post #175
godelski wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> shows tabs on top just like desktop Honestly, I hate this on the phone. But I get it. I had that initial cognitive disruption when FF did this. But once that was gone (idk, like 30 minutes?) I realized it was a lot nicer because I could actually reach the address bar and tabs without needing to stretch my hand. Or if I have a bigger phone, use a second hand. I mean there's a reason navigation buttons on the phones…

I don't mind cognitive disruption at all, as long as I'm getting something better. While the mobile switcher scales much better (how many can the desktop tab bar hold, like ten?), it can take a while to open and sometimes loses your scroll position or puts a tab in a random place in the list. The previews are also so large that it's hard to get an overview. This can make it much slower to switch tabs than on desktop.

Note you can slide over the URL bar to switch tabs left or right.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by lapcat »

the_gipsy wrote: post #149
drozycki wrote: post #97

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I haven’t seen ads on mobile Safari for as long as I can remember. Whether you choose to believe that is up to you. Can you point to an example where an extension like AdGuard would let an ad slip through? Precompiled declarative blocking is more performant and power efficient than running a content script in a JS VM at page load, which matters on a CPU and battery constrained device. I was responding to a comment cl…

> Can you point to an example where an extension like AdGuard would let an ad slip through? Yes, see Twitter. I have AdGuard installed on iOS and I do see ads. I do not see them when opening on Firefox desktop with uBlock Origin. If I disable uBlock then I do see them like on Safari. As I said, precompiled declarative blocking only works for the weakest of blatant ads. Of course it's "more performant and power effici…

> Yes, see Twitter.

Safari content blockers aside, Safari web extensions are capable of blocking Twitter ads.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by serf »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #133
veave wrote: post #120

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Most of Firefox's publicity is based on the fact that they are "on your side". That means that they are held to a much higher standard. Pretending to be on the side of the user and then screwing users up over and over seems like wanting their cake and eating it too? It's funny because, you know, I expect chrome to screw me over while I expect firefox not to screw me over but chrome has screwed me over fewer times tha…

I've yet to notice any event where firefox "screw users over" that was not vastly overblown, especially compared to the competitors. People tend to just judge Mozilla way more harshly. It's very unfair: they do good, and we ask even more of them.

they're the best game in town, but they've also gone against long term user-base wishes again and again to either 1) try to create wider popularity with feature parity (didn't work) and 2) to capitalize in inappropriate ways that are against the ideals first set forward.

It doesn't take a lot of mental effort to realize that the userbase left doesn't want telemetry and third party partnerships; Mozilla knew this, they tried to get away with it and lost goodwill.

It's not the thing, it's the attempt to get away with it that irks me. No one except The Paid wanted pocket integration and Mr Robot promotions.

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