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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by tastysandwich »

joshtgreenwood wrote: post #161
tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

FWIW - just bought a 23 CRV for my wife because of the abundance of analog controls. Not sure what on screen display you were seeing, we use the knobs exclusively.

Nice! I guess they fixed it up

This review is for their 2021 model.

> Plus, while there is a climate button and fan speed button, as well as dials for the temperature settings, you still have to go through the screen to control whether the air conditioner is on or off, and also which ventilation is active. Odd.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-reviews/honda-cr-v-81488

And a demonstration, though it's for an even older model:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99WLw0pQc8w

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by avmich »

fomine3 wrote: post #144
avmich wrote: post #48

For long time I wondered why UI in spacecrafts is so inconvenient. Apollo computer UI seems to be lacking. Soyuz UI, while seems to improve over years (ha, it would be strange, over so many years...), still looks clunky. And then - Crew Dragon comes with touch screens. Don't they understand it's a big step back? There are benefits of "fluid" interfaces, but where is the attention to important features, ability to use…

I don't know much but driving spaceship won't need to watch outside continuously so touchscreen may make sense than car driving

The idea of tactile feedback is that you can look at one place - like a screen, which gives you information in ideally most convenient way - while, without looking, operate buttons, knobs, levers etc., at the same time.

If you have, for example, a screen which shows you docking crosses in the center of the picture and control buttons on the periphery of the picture, you still need to move your focus from the view to controls to operate them. This is a simplified example, just to illustrate my point.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by cyberax »

colordrops wrote: post #138
biofox wrote: post #121

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That sounds like a poor solution to a problem of their own making

As an owner it works great. Windshield wipers have a sensor for automatic control, and if you want to manually adjust, voice recognition is highly accurate these days. I switch between my Prius and Tesla all the time as my wife shares the vehicles, and I much prefer the Tesla controls. But I'll get off of your lawn if you'd like.

I'm usually listening to audiobooks. Right now Tesla doesn't support any audiobook reader, so voice commands momentarily mute the book without pausing.

Next issue is the quality of voice recognition. It just sucks.

Oh, and wipers are a pure fucking BS in Teslas. They removed a $5 infrared precipitation sensor, and it STILL doesn't work well.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by cyberax »

I wish automakers would make buttons with small programmable OLED displays, so that I could bind custom actions to them.

I hated button layout in ALL of the cars I've owned. I usually needed only a couple of buttons, with the rest being unused.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by jimt1234 »

nomel wrote: post #129
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #100

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I have a hand-screw isolator on the battery of my my VW T5, like this https://images.app.goo.gl/d5GXhBocg3gEjhbZA I take the green screw part with me if I have any concerns, and sometimes even if it's parked in it's usual place at home. I figure if a their tries to start the vehicle and it doesn't even turn on, they're likely to move to the next vehicle rather than muck about trying to troubleshoot mine. It's low tec…

I used to pull the accessories fuse, so it wouldn’t start.

My older Nissan Frontier has a fuse for the fuel injection. I pull that out if I ever park any place sketchy.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by SomeCallMeTim »

gorjusborg wrote: post #15

I've never owned a Hyundai, but stuff like this makes me want to look at them. I recently bought what I thought was a car, only to find it is a tech-ridden abomination. I want a vehicle that is reliable. I want a vehicle that is simple. I do not want a rolling AI/touchscreen. Even just from a security standpoint I want minimal software in my car.

I just bought an Ioniq 5 a couple of months ago. The buttons are legit great, and the EV drive train is top notch.

Loving it so far.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by ar9av »

They're right, and touchscreens also inconvenient, annoying, and not universally useful. For an entertainment center and navigation a touchscreen is great, but for basic functions I want switches so I don't have to look away from the road.

Please.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by DangitBobby »

MobileVet wrote: post #133
DangitBobby wrote: post #31

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The Chevy Bolt also costs over $10k less than the Model 3.

Yep. I had my eyes set on the Genesis GV60, but that car’s entry model (if you can find it) is $60k. The Bolt was $33k - 7.5k in tax rebates. It is an enormous value. It isn’t the Genesis for sure… but it’s 80% of that car for 40% the money.

I bought mine about 30 days too soon to qualify for the tax rebate. Pretty salty about that.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by Stratoscope »

judge2020 wrote: post #169
gbin wrote: post #142

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To me, this is definitely a major safety hazard to rely on voice command. If you just get splashed and in a stressed out voice you ask for wipers and your car might not understand you.

The way to do it is to press the wiper button (press in on the stalk button) to swipe one and then it gives you options for manual wiper speed selection via an on-screen control.

So I use a touchscreen to adjust the wiper speed and delay? In the worst kind of weather where I really need it?

Sign me up!

This is a huge improvement over my 2008 Kia where I twist the stalk and don't have to look at it and I can keep my eyes on the road.

OTOH, my old Kia doesn't have Full Self Driving. Ah well.

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